Butter Buns
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Butter Bunsyou know i was trying to get a lower tuned snare sound recently. just something with alot more weight. but like i said im trying to focus on the writing so maxing out the velocity is a bit easier for me right now. thnx for the advice though
Butter Bunsthis is strange because my nic has been active. ive not disabled it or uninstalled it from the device manager. i know it should not ask to authorize otherwise since ive actually run it with a different nic and of course it would ask to authorize when i switched. but ive been using the same nic. i did recently upgrade to renoise’s latest update when i was hit with the re authorization.
Butter Bunsim using the demo of jamstix right now and it asks me to authorize my ezx packs. boo ive already got a 2nd authorization running because of renoise doing the same thing. i wonder what the deal is. any ideas?
Butter Bunsactually theres no quantize on the drums. i think the main reason they might sound fake is because A) the speed B) i max out the midi velocity on the snare hits. i realize its probly not physically possible to play that hard that fast but it sounds nice n grindy to my ears though im gonna work on the midi velocity once ive done the final drafting phase for the songs to make them more human. with that being said i dont think they sound “fake” as much as they sound “unrealistic” lol
Butter Bunsyea i realize how the mix sounds small i only have two gtr tracks in the mix and ive got to adjust reapers pan law or use their chanmix plug in. it seems people focus more on the mix than they do the actual songs on this board. oh well. in any case i’ll be done with writing gtr and drums by the end of december which will leave the vocals and bass. i think the vocals and bass will be done by january and then the tracking will begin at that point. hopefully it’ll be mixed and mastered in february and released around that same time.
Butter Bunsif you dont find the loops you’re looking for you can always program from scratch. you should check out renoise. if you want an example of what can be done with renoise and s2 check out agoraphobic nosebleed’s latest album agorapocalypse. really really good drum programming on that album
Butter Bunsmetalheads ezx sounds fucking great, better than DFH imo. but i would get the metal foundry if i were you. right now gtr center has it for 79 bucks. for that price its a really good deal with all the kits it has
Butter Bunsscott is right about the metalheads ezx. i tweaked some of the settings in that ezx and got a beast of a sound. and the toms sound beefy and phat. i did up the faders on the toms and compressed the fuck out of everything. you could try putting a compressor and transient designer in one of the busses and route all the toms to that bus. also you can do some eq sweeps to find the frequencies that are making that hollow sound. once you find the frequency then just apply a cut. i actually managed to get a really nice sound out of the avatar kit for my grindcore stuff…but ive since moved on to the metal foundry
Butter Bunsthe new metalheads ezx sounds alot more detailed than the DFH ezx. sounds really awesome with a bit of tweaking and ive been waiting for this new midi pack since the first one came out. dirk mentioned he was doing a library with skank beats and d beats in a video right after the first LOTE pack was released. the quality of these two libraries far exceed any free midi loops youd find online and neither is it an easy task to write such detailed midi loops with blasts and fills in excess of 200 bpms from scratch. oh it can be done. but not everyone is friggin scott hull/jay randall.
Butter Bunsthat first one looks exactly like a skank beat of which there are many in the dfh midi library and the LOTE libraries. these are not to your liking? i assume you’ve manipulated the midi loops in ez player pro? i think you can stretch out the loops to fit whatever amount of beats you need. you can also set the time signature as well i believe.
Butter Bunsguitar center was offering this deal as well. but audiomidi is the only one who’s selling the music city sdx for 79 bucks. i picked the claustrophobic ezx though.too bad they never have the joe barresi evil drums for sale thats the one ive always wanted other than the metal foundry which i already have. that being said im looking for an sdx that would be suitable for heavy styles. maybe ill get the new york studios sdx…
Butter Bunsyea i was being sarcastic about the velocity knob. sorry what it basically comes down to is how much time your willing to spend editing the midi data. dirk’s hits are very light compared to the DFH midi library for example. i noticed right off the bat the difference in the way the midi files trigger both metalheads and DFH. also the DFH has a compression channel whereas metalheads does not so that definitely helps things sound bigger and more powerful for that ezx. i compensated for this by creating a compression track and sending all of reapers drum output tracks to it. i think thats whats called sidechain compression if im not mistaken? also as for the fills i noticed dirk does alot of tom and kick work for his fills (my preference is for snare work in the fills a la gridlink’s bryan fajardo) so in the metalheads this really didnt translate well with the default settings. i upped the tom faders in ezdrummers mixer and that fixed the fills real quick. posted a jpg of the sidechain comp
btw, i really dont see the point in going through all the trouble of returning a piece of software when that effort can best be spent being creative with it to get the sounds you want/need.
Butter BunsAre you saying that because MetalHeads is newer it’s more sensitive to note velocities than DFH? So much so, that a hit in DFH at 111, and a hit in MetalHeads at the same velocity will sound SO drastically different, that Metalheads almost sound like ghost notes
@zazelsodo for someone whos been using midi drums for a decade im surprised that you cant hear the difference in sample layering between the metalheads ezx and the DFH ezx. i just loaded up both ezx packs in TT solo, set two tracks in ezplayer pro to each of the ezx’s and auditioned the exact same midi sequence on both ezx’s from different midi libraries. first thing i noticed was how much more layered the metalheads is than DFH. so obviously, yes, the exact same midi sequence is going to sound alot different. you know you can turn the velocity knob to the right…
@leevious its not that difficult to create multi outputs in reaper. at first it may seem daunting but once you have it done you can save your project as a template and never have to deal with multi routing again heres what you do… create one track in reaper and put ezdrummer on it then you need to create more tracks, say about 8 tracks maybe more depending on what you want to route into reaper. once those 8 empty tracks are created then go to the ezdrummer track and you’re going to have to create sends to all those empty tracks. HUZZAH! you’ve just multi outed into reaper. fun times, huh?
if you need more info hit me up. ive also got a project template file i can send you in case you’re too lazy ^__^
Butter Bunsyea id say i have a very healthy selection of toontrack products. i still found the metalheads ezx very useful even though its not crucial. and for a non drummer as myself the addition of the lote 2 midi pack is awesome. ive been waiting for some d-beats and dirk fucking nailed em, now i can get down with some old school grind riffs these midi packs along with the midi pack from the dfh ezx are great for grindcore and metal. couldnt be happier with the releases. i also bought the beanie they had ^___^
Butter Bunsi was really only looking forward to the second installment of the library of the extreme midi pack which is great btw. the metalheads ezx i like. it wasnt essential but its nice to have. that being said i dont see much to complain about
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