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[Joe]

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I went to the manufacturer’s site and found their PDF docs.  You didn’t say which model you have, so I looked at the info for the 506, which had a MIDI implementation chart.

If the docs are accurate, they reveal that the 506 does not support Aftertouch (key or channel), which means you can rule out the “Aftertouch” method of cymbal chokes within S2.0.

Instead you want to utilize the “Mute” articulation in S2.0’s cymbals.  Search for info relating to the Alesis Trigger iO, as this module does not support aftertouch either and there are users who have already given a write up about performing chokes.

[Joe]

ORIGINAL: plink
I have tried tensioning my spring a bit more, but it didn’t seem to do a whole lot. If what you are suggesting by this is truely the problem, Roland has obviously come up with a solution as their samples play fine.

That is because the sounds in the Roland module do not transmute.  So, you hit the cymbal fully or semi-open and the resulting sample will play until a new note is triggered regardless of what the pedal is doing inbetween … unless it is depressed fully (which will also send a new note).  Roland did not have to consider this issue in their moveable HiHat design or data filtering because their module’s sample engine does not reveal the issue.

Transmute is a great feature for added realism.  Perhaps in the future we will see an S2.0 build that will not react to drops in pedal position that occur within x number of milliseconds after a hit to help smooth out this hardware issue.  Perhaps with a millisecond value that is adjustable by the user.

[Joe]

I use a TMC-6 (along with a TD-10) for triggering Superior Drummer. Speaking from personal experience and not on behalf of Toontrack:

The triggering from a TMC-6 is excellent.  It has all of the important trigger setup options that the TD-10 has, and one that it doesnt:  Setting a MIDI Channel for each trigger.

Essentially, the TMC-6 is the basic trigger section from a TD-8/10.  You are limited by the number of inputs in this model.  If you want to hook up 2 TMC-6’s for a total of 12 triggers, you’ll need a MIDI Merge (or 2 ports on your computer) as the TMC-6 does not support MIDI IN/THRU (though serializing the TMC-6 with another module that has full MIDI I/O works well).  Only one of the inputs (#2: Snare) support dual-zone triggering ability from a Mesh pad (piezo/peizo), though all inputs support dual zone using Piezo/Switch style pads (including Roland style cymbals and PD rubber pads.).  So, if you buy a full set of dual-trigger mesh pads, just know that with the TMC-6, only the one you hook up to input #2 will respond to rim hits.

Hope that helps.

Joe

[Joe]

You won’t have to worry about the TD-6 being a factor for added latency.  Latency is going to be more of a factor of the computer Audio interface and drivers.  I wouldn’t anticipate there being a problem with M-Audio’s Delta line of cards.

Best Regards,

Joe

[Joe]

If the “Learning” process, for whatever reason, just isn’t agreeable, then I would recommend you enter all of the notes manually.

In your module (TD-20), you will find a setting page that tells you all of the output notes for the HiHat.  However, they will be an octave off from the values you actually need to input into Superior (octave differences are common between manufacturers as the spec as written had ambiguity.).  I believe the Roland will show you both the scale note value/octave as well as the notes absolute number. (ie: 46).

So, I’d also recommend that you go to the “Settings” panel in SD2.0 and check mark “MIDI Keys as Number” so that you will be able to display the absolute numbers instead of the note octaves.  It is just less prone to error.

Best Regards,

Joe

[Joe]

Don’t stomp hard on the pedal when learning the Pedal Closed mapping. It can cause the module to trigger one of the bow/edge notes an instant before the Pedal Closed note (and this not only prevents the proper Pedal Closed note from being learned, but also grabs the note it did learn away from where it was supposed to be).  Just lightly bring down your foot and apply pressure.

Best Regards,

Joe

[Joe]

Select the hatsCtlr articulation, check “Edit Articulation Only” and lower the Velocity CTRL “Limit” field until the tight sounds are trimmed out (it happens on my setup at ‘125’)

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