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George Bellas
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Example Forms of where this would be useful:
MINUET and TRIO (Compound Ternary)
RONDO
SONATA (with cadenza)
It would be quite helpful to have that level of control over the section labels. Thanks guys for all the passionate work you have put into such an inspiring instrument.
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SYSTEM SPECS
Mac Pro 3.2 GHz 8 Core - Mac OS X 10.11.6 - Logic Pro X 10.3.2 - Superior Drummer 3.1.7
Thanks Olof!
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SYSTEM SPECS
Mac Pro 3.2 GHz 8 Core - Mac OS X 10.11.6 - Logic Pro X 10.3.2 - Superior Drummer 3.1.7
@Daniel Houlemarde said:
How can I easily re-map?
To use your MIDI mapping from Superior Drummer 2:
1. Save your MIDI Map within Superior Drummer 2
2. In Superior Drummer 3, open the “MIDI Mapping” panel located on the right side of the interface of the Drums Tab
3. Click the “MIDI In/E-Drums Settings…” button
4. In the upper left of the “MIDI In/E-Drums Settings” window, click the dropdown menu most likely labeled “Default”
5. Scroll down to the menu item labeled “S2 User Preset” to select your Superior Drummer 2 MIDI map (see screenshot below)
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SYSTEM SPECS
Mac Pro 3.2 GHz 8 Core - Mac OS X 10.11.6 - Logic Pro X 10.3.2 - Superior Drummer 3.1.7
@Henrik said:
We haven’t yet implemented that feature in SD3. We have gotten some requests of this feature so we are looking into it!
This is an extremely valuable feature in SD2 for creating customized drum parts. I appreciate Toontrack considering to add this feature back into SD3. It would be much welcomed and very helpful. Thanks.
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SYSTEM SPECS
Mac Pro 3.2 GHz 8 Core - Mac OS X 10.11.6 - Logic Pro X 10.3.2 - Superior Drummer 3.1.7
That sounds like a significant amount of code that would need to be written.
However, you can already export a score in PDF format from most DAW’s; simply drag the drum MIDI parts into your DAW and from within the score editor choose ‘Print’ or “Export”.
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SYSTEM SPECS
Mac Pro 3.2 GHz 8 Core - Mac OS X 10.11.6 - Logic Pro X 10.3.2 - Superior Drummer 3.1.7
The Superior Drummer 3 interface is scalable plus it has detachable panels allowing users a customizable workspace.
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SYSTEM SPECS
Mac Pro 3.2 GHz 8 Core - Mac OS X 10.11.6 - Logic Pro X 10.3.2 - Superior Drummer 3.1.7
Thank you Henrik and all at Toontrack. Your passionate work is greatly appreciated.
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SYSTEM SPECS
Mac Pro 3.2 GHz 8 Core - Mac OS X 10.11.6 - Logic Pro X 10.3.2 - Superior Drummer 3.1.7
SUPERIOR DRUMMER 3.0.2 UPDATE
Thank you for adding the name to the MIDI file when dragged onto the DAW. However, the current implementation makes it difficult to decipher at a glance and unnecessarily shows the complete path to the folder on the user’s hard drive (minus system path info). Furthermore, zooming in horizontally is required in order to see the name of the file on the MIDI region due to the name including unnecessary file path information.
MIDI NAME in SUPERIOR DRUMMER 2 -vs- SUPERIOR DRUMMER 3
– In SD2 the name on the MIDI region was an abbreviation that clearly indicated the MIDI Grooves folder name, relevant path, and file name. This clearly shows the name of the file and enables users to QUICKLY see where it resides in the MIDI Grooves panel without having to extensively zoom in horizontally and then decipher a cryptic file path.
– In SD3 the name on the MIDI region shows the entire path of the file location on the user’s hard drive (minus the system path) and also includes mis-information (displays wrong tempo), and obscure characters making it more difficult to decipher than in SD2.
COMPARISON EXAMPLES (see attachement)
SUPERIOR DRUMMER 2
The MIDI Groove: ” Monster MIDI Pack / Straight 4/4 / SONG 01 104 BPM / HATS CLOSED VARIATIONS / Variation 01 ” is labeled as:
MMP_S4_HCV_V01
SUPERIOR DRUMMER 3
The MIDI Groove: ” Monster MIDI Pack / Straight 4/4 / SONG 01 104 BPM / HATS CLOSED VARIATIONS / Variation 01 ” is labeled as:
_EZD2MIDI_000090@MONSTER_MIDI_PACK/105@STRAIGHT_4#4/110-S022@HATS_CLOSED_VARIATIONS/Variation_01.mid
SUGGESTIONS
On the MIDI region within the DAW only display the relevant information to enable users to quickly and clearly see where the file is located within the Grooves panel. The implementation in SD2 was short and concise and the name did not contain a somewhat cryptic path and irrelevant information such as “_EZD2MIDI_000090@”. It appears that the code used in SD3 simply displays the file path on the hard drive rather than utilizing the previous function used in SD2. Perhaps the naming function code in SD2 can be reused in SD3.
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SYSTEM SPECS
Mac Pro 3.2 GHz 8 Core - Mac OS X 10.11.6 - Logic Pro X 10.3.2 - Superior Drummer 3.1.7
@Henrik said:
What scenario would be most useful for you in your daily work:
1. * Try to name the MIDI groove to the folder it originates from (both from Grooves tab, and from Superior Drummer 3 song track)
2. Name the MIDI groove to the originating folder path when dragged from Grooves tab, and name the MIDI groove the song part it is when dragged from the track.
SD3 SONG TRACK NAME -vs- DAW TRACK NAME
There are two lines of text on each MIDI region that is dragged to the SD3 Song Track. Therefore, you could conceivably use the top string of text on the MIDI region to display the path name (or abbreviation) of the originating Groove/Fill, and then use the bottom string of text on the MIDI region to display the song part. But if the user drags the Groove/Fill from the SD3 Song Track onto the DAW track the name should then reflect the originating file path (as in EZ Player Pro), otherwise there is no way to keep track of what has been used from the Grooves library.
EXAMPLE (see attachment)
– When dragging a Groove onto the Song Track in EZ Player Pro the MIDI region name reflects the part ( e.g. “Variation 02” )
– When dragging a Groove from the Song Track in EZ Player Pro the MIDI region name reflects the path ( e.g. “Variation 02” becomes “NY-_S4_FV_V02” in the DAW )
KEEP IN MIND
When a MIDI groove/fill is on the SD3 Song Track, the user can use the menu command “Find > Show in Browser” to reveal the originating file path. However, that is not possible once the MIDI groove is placed on the DAW track.
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SYSTEM SPECS
Mac Pro 3.2 GHz 8 Core - Mac OS X 10.11.6 - Logic Pro X 10.3.2 - Superior Drummer 3.1.7
@Henrik said:
We will change this in a coming update to better reflect the origin of the groove though:
– if you drag from the Grooves tab – the name will be the path to the groove, so you can retrace it
– if you drag from the song track – the name will be the song part you have assigned. Have you marked it as a Chorus, it will be named accordingly.
Good to hear! Thanks for the insight, Henrik.
I look forward to seeing the refinements in Superior Drummer 3 in the forthcoming updates.
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SYSTEM SPECS
Mac Pro 3.2 GHz 8 Core - Mac OS X 10.11.6 - Logic Pro X 10.3.2 - Superior Drummer 3.1.7
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Thanked by: sj1To use your MIDI mapping from Superior Drummer 2:
1. Save your MIDI Map within Superior Drummer 2
2. In Superior Drummer 3, open the “MIDI Mapping” panel located on the right side of the interface of the Drums Tab
3. Click the “MIDI In/E-Drums Settings…” button
4. In the upper left of the “MIDI In/E-Drums Settings” window, click the dropdown menu most likely labeled “Default”
5. Scroll down to the menu item labeled “S2 User Preset” to select your Superior Drummer 2 MIDI map (see screenshot below)
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SYSTEM SPECS
Mac Pro 3.2 GHz 8 Core - Mac OS X 10.11.6 - Logic Pro X 10.3.2 - Superior Drummer 3.1.7
@Henrik said:
…you can press alt key on your keyboard + click on the preset. This is a shortcut to get in to Select Parts without having to go through the menu, and it’s right now a workaround for the bug.
That works. Thanks Henrik.
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SYSTEM SPECS
Mac Pro 3.2 GHz 8 Core - Mac OS X 10.11.6 - Logic Pro X 10.3.2 - Superior Drummer 3.1.7
@jeffthall said:
When I try to “select parts” to just load a mixer only part from another preset to the one I already have loaded, it immediately loads everything from that preset. The UI changes immediately showing the drums from the source preset that I’m trying to just extract the mixer from. Even if I then unselect the “load drums” tab, it’s too late, the drums have already been replaced.To be clear, I have a kit loaded that I like. I want to load a mixer from another preset. I navigate to the preset I want to get the mixer from and click on the little down arrow and click on “select parts”. At that point the select parts window opens, and the kit from this new source kit loads right away before I have a chance to make selections.
Confirmed. I get the exact same behavior.
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SYSTEM SPECS
Mac Pro 3.2 GHz 8 Core - Mac OS X 10.11.6 - Logic Pro X 10.3.2 - Superior Drummer 3.1.7
@Henrik said:
If you have groove on the song track, and right click > “Paste > Hi-hat” for example, the hi-hat will be added (and replace the old hi-hat from that groove).
This totally works! Thanks again Henrik, your suggestions are greatly appreciated.
Still missing though is the ability to audition individual kit pieces within the Grooves browser (as it was in SD2).
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SYSTEM SPECS
Mac Pro 3.2 GHz 8 Core - Mac OS X 10.11.6 - Logic Pro X 10.3.2 - Superior Drummer 3.1.7
Thanks for the info, Henrik. While that ability is not so obvious, I’m glad to see the option there.
However, when trying to ‘stack’ various kit pieces by selectively pasting (as in your much appreciated suggestion), the previously pasted kit piece gets replaced instead of being added to the existing MIDI. I also tried pasting each kit piece into its own separate Song Track, but the tracks do not play simultaneously. As of now, I am not able to take the hats from one groove and combine them with the kick and/or snare from another groove in the Song Track. And that ‘layering’ ability (available in SD2) is what the original poster was referring to.
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SYSTEM SPECS
Mac Pro 3.2 GHz 8 Core - Mac OS X 10.11.6 - Logic Pro X 10.3.2 - Superior Drummer 3.1.7
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