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Whitten Hmmm. You are suddenly extremely aggressive and rather unreasonable.
I’m trying to help you get to where you need to be.
Personally, I find a DAW a much more secure piece of software to dedicate hours of painstaking work, then a $150 plug-in that’s been out a week. As I said, EZkeys isn’t a mini DAW and it’s not unreasonable to point that out to you or anyone else.
My DAW autosaves every five minutes, so if all my copy/pasting causes the program to crash, I only have to go back 5 or 10 minutes, not back to the beginning.
Anyway, sorry my ‘gibberish’ didn’t help you out.
Whitten Yes.
I’m just suggesting the better workflow at present is to drag small clips into your DAW early on, and build up the very long string of parts there.
Essentially I think it’s unreasonable to expect EZkeys to act like a mini DAW.
Your DAW provides the tools to string very long arrangements together, plus all the tools like cut, paste and deep editing possibilities.
EZkeys provides a small footprint acoustic piano and a basic midi library to start you off.
EZkeys is $150, Ableton $300, Logic $799. EZkeys is $150, Ivory $180 to $350 (plus iLok).
WhittenORIGINAL: Cygnus64
Copy/Paste: A midi file cannot be pasted into a DAW, it can only be dragged in ( I think?). It would be easier and have more uses if one could paste.
I don’t understand the problem (genuinely)? Once you drag your EZkeys midi into a DAW, it can be copied and pasted with no end.
Anyway, at risk of going against ‘fizbin’, who is manfully trying to keep the thread on track, I’m very happy you love EZdrummer and Superior.
In fact EZdrummer has had plenty of criticism over the years. That’s just the nature of we humans.
Apparently EZdrummer could be a lot better if only….. Just like EZkeys could be a lot better if only……
Whitten ‘tombur’ yes I agree with you.
It’s great customer feedback. You are suggesting a couple of ways EZkeys could be improved.
Why I started my thread was because an opinion seemed to be gaining credence that EZkeys was flawed, not finished, just because it didn’t perform in a way some users thought it would.
A product can always be improved, especially via user feedback. But as it is, it works just fine right now, being that it provides a very nice sounding piano with a smaller footprint than most piano VI’s, and that if you grab the midi clips and drop them onto a midi track in your DAW, the editing possibilities are only restricted by your knowledge of your DAW and your imagination.
Whitten I just spent a few minutes with EZkeys, but I found one of the swing pattern jazz grooves was like a basic rock ballad.
I agree with John, you need to explore outside the song categories.
Whitten I slightly agree.
There are a lot of virtual pianos.
On the positive side, the EZkeys piano doesn’t sound at all compromised to my ears.
Yes, the midi is pretty basic so far.
But on the positive side, there will be more midi. I’m glad the midi isn’t unusable ear candy played by Mr Chops.
Whitten I disagree with you on EZdrummer.
You’ve never constructed your whole drum performance in EZdrummer, you’ve always dragged short clips into your DAW and put together the arrangement there.
That for me is how EZkeys currently works.
However, I see the mention of a ‘song track’ in the product description certainly implies you should be able to collect and edit clips in the ‘song track’, which you guys are saying isn’t working at the moment?
Also a gripe that there aren’t enough midi files.
That’s fine….. there aren’t enough midi files as yet. It’s a limited library.
The doesn’t mean it’s an unfinished plug-in. It just means we need more midi clips.
WhittenSignature midi (from the right people, not ‘metal’ pleeease) = yummy.
Herbie Hancock would be a dream, maybe Lyle Mays.
But I’d settle for fellow Nordic Bugge Wesseltoft
Whitten I understand chords, and I can play chords, but I’m not a proper piano player.
The best thing this product could be for me is chord sequence inspiration. Although the piano sound itself is very usable I think.
I probably need more midi files for chord inspiration though, especially in the jazz category.
On the controversial detuning. I’m sympathetic to that gripe. I’ve timed it at every 20 seconds.
I just auditioned some of the jazz midi and you can barely get through any midi clip without the detuning.
It’s more wasting my time than stopping me from recording a piano part for a song without having bought EZkeys.
I think one needs to strike a fair balance between discouraging people from taking advantage…. and just discouraging them from viewing a product favourably.
Whitten I just think we need to get out of the headspace that EZkeys is a one stop shop for piano composition.
It’s aptly named EZ, in that it most closely resembles EZdrummer in concept.
With these ‘EZ’ products, you find midi parts that almost fit your needs, you straight away drop them into your DAW, and all the editing and refinement goes on there.
Also, you aren’t limited to one instance of EZkeys.
If you are really worried about losing something you’ve slowly built up in the EZkeys songline, then create another VI track and launch a second instance, then switch between the two.
WhittenI don’t have EZkeys yet, but I’m guessing the idea is you find a sequence that sort of fits your needs, then quite quickly export that to a midi track in your DAW. Then the editing possibilities are pretty limitless. The EZkeys sequences are just midi after all.
Whitten Yep.
Do you have a guide to Pro Tools?
You need to create a virtual instrument track and select EZdrummer from the pull down menu on the track
Whitten I think you have an issue.
There are way more than two rimshot samples.
Probably best to start a new thread in the EZdrummer Help forum.
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