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Whitten Attach the midi out of your TD3 to the midi in of the midi i/o.
Open a Pro Tools session and create a new stereo track….. a virtual instrument track.
Instance Superior 2 on an insert in the mixer channel corresponding to the instrument track.
Highlight the red record arm button on the instrument track, hit play and the track will go into record, then start playing your TD3.
The midi should be recorded onto the track.
When you are done, you disable the record button and press ‘play’ to playback your recording.
You can then edit the midi.
Whitten You can input a trigger to the ‘trigger in’ on the D4 or use midi and/or midi pads to trigger the sounds in the D4.
The D4 is a sound module only.
What this has to do with Toontrack….. I don’t know.
Manual:
http://www.dbdrums.com.ar/includes/seccion/downloads/Alesis%20D4%20Manual%20Ingles.pdf
Whitten Wow, well done.
This was really perplexing me too, and I couldn’t work out what the solution was.
WhittenIf you go to the download area, go to extra downloads, click on the folder EZdrummer, then Host Stuff, you’ll see the multi outs template.
WhittenORIGINAL: bvaughn
I guess I was just a bit worried if I found a 2 measure MIDI file, and then copied/pasted it for an entire verse whether that would sound exactly like a real drummer.
Pretty much.
But if there is an opportunity to pick out a single moment in the bass part, or the vocal with a little drum edit, it’ll sound even more like a real drummer.
Imagine the drummer is listening to the music, not repeating themselves like a machine.
But don’t forget……. less is more.
Whitten I’m not sure if there are any reference works.
Drumming is so subjective.
Every player constructs their part differently, and often the songwriter and producer will have an input.
It’s also highly dependent on the genre.
A progressive rock or fusion drummer will play a lot more notes and with more variation than a mainstream pop drummer.
horses for courses.
My own tenet is ‘less is more’.
I don’t regularly play jazz, fusion or progressive mind you.
But for basic rock I would start out with a simple part that fits your needs.
Keep it fairly simple throughout, but perhaps edit in changes when the music demands that you do.
Again, my own personal approach is to tell the story of the song through the drums.
like literature, there’s a beginning, a middle and an end.
A simple construction therefore might be – groove 1 at the beginning, groove 1+ for the first chorus or second verse (to taste). groove 2 for the middle of the story (this is often a ‘middle 8’, ‘bridge’ or instrumental solo section), groove 1++ for the last chorus or outro.
My little plus signs (+) might indicate a few more open hi-hat accents or a few ghost notes. A ++ (for the end chorus or outro) might indicate the verse groove but with a switch from hi-hat to ride cymbal.
You are building the story of the song.
My final comment is that drum programmers often make drum parts too detailed and over complicated.
The top studio players will zone in on a drum part that works perfectly for the song (and blends with the bass for example) and only embellish it when necessary. A fill from verse into chorus might be as simple as an open hi-hat flick, or a little snare skip.
The difference between the verse and chorus might simply be the difference between a tight closed hi-hat and a slightly more open hi-hat.
Whitten Is it something about the way you are copying the clips in Sonar?
Perhaps there are options for copies to be unique, or clones.
In any case it sounds like a Sonar issue and you could post a question on editing midi in clips on a Sonar forum.
Whitten Yeah, I’ve done the same.
Sometimes I also include verse variations on the second track, just in case i want to flip between the two.
Whitten A midi to USB cable might be a valid alternative. I don’t know.
I’m just reporting what I’ve done with very good results.
WhittenWhat about a midi interface of some kind and a basic midi cable?
That’s what I’ve always used
The Digidesign LE modules all have a dedicated midi section.
I think there are other cheap midi interfaces available.
WhittenYou’d either want to custom modify pre made midi files (like those offered in EZdrummer), or start from scratch by programming your drum patterns from a midi keyboard or e-drum set.
Your questions are extremely basic. They go to the heart of computer music, and in particular the workings of Pro Tools LE rather than EZdrummer, so I would advise you to look around YouTube for video tutorials. Better yet, get someone local to give you some computer music lessons, or buy a Pro Tools course on DVD.
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