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[olliepudge]

Hi st33I,

That’s exactly what I did and it worked just fine. All libraries are included though. You can’t purchase them separately.

[olliepudge]

Good idea Walt. Anyone without Adobe could just copy the whole manual and paste in Microsoft Word and print it too no? Seems pretty simple to me.

[olliepudge]

Hi kdj,

It’s called “stacking” now. Here’s a video to help.

[olliepudge]

@olliepudge said:
Hi Henrik,

Did some playing around here. The articulations in the stack under the Metal Confusion preset are Center, Hit, and Rimshot. Only the first center hit triggers when I hit my snare pad, yet when I have the MIDI key map open and I click the snares in the stack individually (not my snare pad) they all show the same number “Center 38.” It makes no sense. I just don’t get why the snare wouldn’t trigger ALL three if the MIDI note is the same.

The only way I got it to work was removing the stack entirely and recreating it under a Trigger stack. Then all three snares triggered. Not sure why. I then had to create a Rimshot stack to get the rim shots which worked, so why didn’t the original rimshot sound (3rd stack) work when I first opened the preset without changing anything?

This would take forever to redo all of the presets though and it would make the presets useless. What am I doing wrong? There has to be a solution here. This is so frustrating. I hope this makes sense. If not, I would love to troubleshoot this over the phone with you if possible. Thanks.  

Hi Henrik,

I think I figured this out. Like I said above, I noticed that the samples would sound when I hit the snare pad if I created a Trigger stack. I recorded a beat using the song creator (which is an awesome feature by the way for those of us who do not use a DAW) and then ran into another problem. The Trigger stack samples would not sound during playback. I was considering setting my computer on fire and building a shrine around it at that point?.

Since the sounds would only play under a Trigger stack using my e drums, I checked the MIDI note number for the trigger in the articulation drop down which was 6 and I added it under the MIDI mapping drop down and it worked! Is this the proper way to do this? It works but I’d like to know if I made this more difficult than it had to be. Please let me know your thoughts. Thanks.

Josh

[olliepudge]

Hi Henrik,

Did some playing around here. The articulations in the stack under the Metal Confusion preset are Center, Hit, and Rimshot. Only the first center hit triggers when I hit my snare pad, yet when I have the MIDI key map open and I click the snares in the stack individually (not my snare pad) they all show the same number “Center 38.” It makes no sense. I just don’t get why the snare wouldn’t trigger ALL three if the MIDI note is the same.

The only way I got it to work was removing the stack entirely and recreating it under a Trigger stack. Then all three snares triggered. Not sure why. I then had to create a Rimshot stack to get the rim shots which worked, so why didn’t the original rimshot sound (3rd stack) work when I first opened the preset without changing anything?

This would take forever to redo all of the presets though and it would make the presets useless. What am I doing wrong? There has to be a solution here. This is so frustrating. I hope this makes sense. If not, I would love to troubleshoot this over the phone with you if possible. Thanks.

[olliepudge]

@olliepudge said:
Hi Henrik,

I’m getting nowhere here. I’ve hit the pad soft and hard and I just get the first snare at the top of the list on the Metal Confusion preset. I tried playing around with the velocity gate and had no luck. I checked all of the MIDI mapping and all three snares have the same note number (38) for the center hit , so when I hit the snare pad it should be triggering all three since it triggers the first one correct? I even hit the drop down menu under MIDI mapping and tried the learn function. I clicked that and hit the snare and got nothing. All three snares sound when I play one of the included grooves though. It’s driving me nuts! I’m hoping you or someone can help here. Thanks.  

Thought I should mention that I’m noticing this in other presets as well. Just the first snare triggers and none of the others in the stack.

[olliepudge]

Another weird one. I brought up the Bob Rock Rock Kit 1 preset and the cymbals don’t trigger. Just the hi hat. I see the cymbals move on screen when I hit the pads, but no sound. What is going on? Would this have anything to do with me just having the basic library installed? I noticed on a few presets in the mixer section there were a few channels that said the mics were not routed. Thanks.

[olliepudge]

Hi Henrik,

I’m getting nowhere here. I’ve hit the pad soft and hard and I just get the first snare at the top of the list on the Metal Confusion preset. I tried playing around with the velocity gate and had no luck. I checked all of the MIDI mapping and all three snares have the same note number (38) for the center hit , so when I hit the snare pad it should be triggering all three since it triggers the first one correct? I even hit the drop down menu under MIDI mapping and tried the learn function. I clicked that and hit the snare and got nothing. All three snares sound when I play one of the included grooves though. It’s driving me nuts! I’m hoping you or someone can help here. Thanks.

[olliepudge]

I’ve just added the center hit which is what I’m hitting as well, but like I mentioned in my other posts, this is happening even when I load a preset without editing anything. I’ve only installed the basic library so far. Do you think that has anything to do with it? What’s weird is I’ll click the center stack tab above all of the snares and they all sound, but I hit my snare pad and only the first snare plays.

[olliepudge]

Yes I understand how to add a snare for stacking. What I’m saying is that they do not trigger. For example, your Metal Confusion preset has 4 snares stacked, but when I hit the snare pad on my e drum kit only the first one plays. The other 3 do not.

[olliepudge]

Hey guys. I was able to correct this by making some adjustments in the MIDI settings on my drum module. Thanks for the fast responses though! These kits sound killer by the way! It’s insane.

[olliepudge]

Hi Damian,
Yes I tried that. I have it set to the closed setting, but it still sounds a little open. Doesn’t close tight. It seems like adjusting ANY of the articulations does nothing as if the software isn’t reading my hi hat, but that can’t be the case because it plays sound when I hit it. I’m puzzled here.

[olliepudge]

Sorry. Forgot to add that I’m using the Roland TD-25 module.

[olliepudge]

I’m surprised Sweetwater said that because they will be selling it along with Toontrack. This is supposed to just be the library and does not include the software correct Toontrack? The description says “This version of Superior Drummer 3 includes a 256GB solid-state drive loaded with the software’s core sample library. Call your Sales Engineer for more details.” Here’s the link.

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/SupDrum3HD

[olliepudge]

Thanks Henrik!

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