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[Nathan]

From memory there are 20-30 notes on the highest range pans, so it’s not impossible, although it might take up a large range of the MIDI. It would probably be best to have a sparate EZX dedicated to them, so several instruments from bass to soprano could be used, and even more than one pan covering each note range (overlapping notes build).

Just wondering, is it possible to get an EZX responding to more than one MIDI channel?

But, definitely some more ethnic percussion, african, indian, oriental, australasian… I’d love TT to provide this.

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[Nathan]

I’d be up for that too.

+3

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[Nathan]

Sorry Juicy, I forgot about the “turn the mp3 down” bit

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[Nathan]

At a guess, the mp3 is hypercompressed, ie lots of volume for the size of its peaks (low crest factor).

Drums played from SD2 are almost as opposite as you can get from that, they are very “spikey” (high crest factor) and so will have a relatively low volume for the size of the peaks -and SD2 is relatively unprocessed compared to even EZD, so the spikes will be larger for the same perceived volume.

You are going to either have to buy a bigger system to get the level up, or you are going to have to EQ, compress and limit the audio so that you can bring the volume up for the same peak level. Probably best to trim any frequencies south of 40Hz away for starters, unless you are sure your system can reproduce them. Compress with a low ratio (1.5:1) and a low threshold, low enough so that there is 6 to 8dB or gain reduction at the max level (this might get you up to a doubling of perceived level if done right). Use a brick wall limiter (eg Fabfilter Pro-L) to chop up to another 6dB off the peaks -this might not sound pretty if done insensitively, so USE YOUR EARS).

These steps might get you quite a bit of level increase without clipping your amps; they’re a rough parallel to what happens in mixing and mastering a track, but without the other music to mask some of the uglyness that is got away with, you might not be able to push it as far as in commercial recordings .

I provide and run stage monitors for live gigs, and raw drums are the spikiest audio you get to amplify (unless you make a hobby out of amplifying electrical faults). I get around this by using big amplifiers for lots of headroom (we rarely actually use all the power available, and usu only a fraction). On top of this we use DSP processors to limit the signal so we can push it that little bit further without clipping (clipping being the pagan slayer of HF drivers). Saying this, the smallest drum monitor I use is 500W+500W (sub plus mid-hi cab), the largest uses one side of over 5kW of power amp.

I hope this helps.

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[Nathan]

The Koloss samples were just that: isolated samples, used for “sample stacking” -no bleeds, no ambients, etc. I think maybe TT will reserve the “Koloss method” for stuff like that instead of whole instruments (close mics, bleeds, overheads, ambients, etc).

I know it’s nice for someone to do all the work for you, and I get as excited as anybody when new TT sounds are released, but you might have all the stuff you need for the sound you want.

Is this an “acceptable” reggae sound? Much of the snare is sidestick, but contains straight hits and rimshots too:

http://www.planetnine.org/reaperpix/reggae_groove_check_CV+MF_snare.mp3

Snare “ringy” enough?

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[Nathan]

When I’m in DT I use the mouse to manually select the point and then add an event. If it hasn’t detected the cymbal hit and placed a hitpoint already, then there is no way for it to know where to “tab” to.

I have a Shuttle programmed to use some of the shortcut keys in DT to make the workflow a little more fluid, but there aren’t any go left/right, swap between play cursor & edit cursor keys, so mouse it is. Once the hitpoints are detected, I can “tab” between them by shuttle, and I can use the devices various buttons to play/pause, nudge hitpoints or alter their strength. There are key and mouse-modifiers for most of that -I try to assign stuff to controllers to spped the flow.

I find it easier sometimes to do that in my DAW (I use REAPER). I have the Shuttle set to scrub backwards and forwards and either use a mouse or a MIDI device like drum pads or keyboard to actually enter whichever cymbal it is (or I prefer it to be).

You just have to decide which is better for your workflow -automatic or manual in DT or MIDI editor in your DAW. Get and use controllers (I use the Shuttle Pro2 and the X-Keys Pro for keys) and just work it out. I try not to replace everything in a track and don’t always touch the OH channels, so I don’t always end up replacing all cymbals. Depends on you job and what you want to do.

I would like to have more keys and better control of DT -there could be improvements.

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[Nathan]

ORIGINAL: John

If you have Spotify, you can listen to these two tracks on the ‘Princess & Mr. Tom’ album ‘Lost’:
http://open.spotify.com/track/7q01GXniotr9iXiu8fvPn2 – spotify:track:7q01GXniotr9iXiu8fvPn2
http://open.spotify.com/track/6YoVvSktXHQxVDAjAdaUun – spotify:track:6YoVvSktXHQxVDAjAdaUun

I used Twisted Kit on several songs but it’s not so easy to spot save but on these two songs.

Do you have to download something to listen to these please John? The webpage was unresponsive.

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[Nathan]

Personally, I run through the overheads and manually place them on the overhead timeline in Drumtracker.

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[Nathan]

You have got the LP EZX haven’t you?

Depends on your musical tastes and styles I suppose, but for percussion it’s a no-brainer.

That was the first one I got. Electronic and No.1 Hits are also recommended if you use drum-machine/ electronic percussion sounds.

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[Nathan]

Try this for size, Dog.

It’s a bit of a free-for-all, Brazillian hybrid, but I think it’s all Twisted Kit.

http://www.planetnine.org/mp3/Foray8%20(1+2)%20PL9-8-1%20(mix1).mp3

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[Nathan]

Im interested in this too, because I got a different error trying to install the update for this same EZX too.

I use it with SD2.

I still haven’t heard about a fix.

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[Nathan]

It’s easy to forget the focus and concentration it must take, not to mention the blows of these backwards steps. Does it hurt, physically, with the constant sitting behind the kit in one position, without the usual playing then listen breaks, etc…

Thanks for sharing Chris.

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[Nathan]

Judging by the thinly veiled humour, I’d say I’m expecting too much of the EZD package

You have the advantage of me sir, I don’t possess EZD and I don’t know its limitations compared to SD2.

Do you just select the drum kit library (eg Rock Solid), load a EZ Mic preset (eg close and compressed) and set the levels on your mixer?

I’m presuming that EZD doesn’t have the inserts, the bleed control, the routing, the dynamic level control, the mapping, the MIDI nodes, the X-drums, the tuning, the randomisation options, the layer & voice limits, etc, etc that SD2 does…

If there’s virtually nothing to set in an instance of EZD, I can see why you might be wondering why it’s worth the effort to transfer projects when the MIDI file is 99.9% of the content.

To the OP, if you want to do this seamlessly, run REAPER on both machines. I understand it will happily transfer project files between the two platforms…

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[Nathan]

One cross-platform DAW that wouldn’t cost you anything but your time to try out is REAPER.

It’s not as good in the MIDI department as Cubase, but you should be able to transfer projects seamlessly across as long as you have identical plugins -and REAPER’s built-in ones aren’t too bad.

Obviously this would mean you learning the REAPER way and the investment of time that involves, but it’s not crippled to try it out, (60 day evaluation) and for your use, I think one licence would cover the two machines anyway.

Just an idea…

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[Nathan]

Can you save anything in EZD like a “Combined Preset” in SD2 Rogue?

With different hosts, in theory you just need the EZD config to be identical and the MIDI to be copied across. Im not an EZD user, so I can’t speak with any authority, but can you save the EZD config to a cross-platform file?

The rest is host project specific, but this would get the EZD bit across…

Edit: If Garageband can save in some for of Logic subset format, AA Translator might be able to convert the project -don’t know if AA-Translator would convert the VSTi config stuff; I’ll try to find out.

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