EZD2: Van Halen Snare Sound?

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  • J.A.J Sound
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    I got no answers or help for ya…sorry, but i am gonna watch this post and see what kinda replies you do get. Should be very interesting.

    bgibson72
    Participant

    I’m not sure who told you drummers can’t stand AVH’s snare sound–maybe you’re hanging out with the wrong crowd? LOL

    Anyway, I’m a drummer but not an EZD2 user–I’m an Addictive Drums user. :P If you can get me some info, I MAY be able to help you. I’m not sure how EZD2 works but in AD, I start with the Ludwig LM402 6″x14″ snare (his actual drum) and then tweak the pitch, compression and other settings. I think part of AVH’s sound is in the way that he plays, microphone/recording settings and of course head choice, which I’m sure are beyond the scope of any DAW and drum app. Let me know what kind of snares you have to work with and maybe a screenshot or two showing the settings you have available and we’ll see what we can come up with. I’m sure that you have either abandoned this or found something that works considering the amount of time that passed, but I thought I would respond anyway because of your first sentence! At any rate, you also might want to compare the ‘open hit’ sound with the ‘rimshot’ or whatever terminology EZD2 uses. I can’t confirm this, but the tone almost sounds closer to a very solid rimshot as compared to openly hitting the center of the batter head. I think his heads were tuned with the top lower than the bottom, and the bottom possibly being a thicker head than the standard snare side head (maybe Remo Diplomat or Ambassador) and to compensate for lack of sensitivity in the thinner head, he may use a 30-42 strand snare wire. Of course, this is all moot when considering a electronic representation, but it’s good to know? Maybe?

    Reference this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRK-S-tibA0

    Good luck…

    PlatinumSamples
    Participant

    A big part of Alex’ sound is that he gaffer tapes the whole bottom snare head. You won’t get that with EQ or compression.

    Rail

    CHRIS
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    Not sure on that album, but Alex used Simmons drum sounds triggered through his acoustic set more than a lot of people are aware of.

    http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/ok-drummers-examine-alex-van-halen.292270/page-2

    Phenix 2
    Participant

    SO, WHICH EZX ?

    You can subscribe to my free Youtube channel for the drums (so with a lot of Toontrack )
    > Check it out because there are a lot of demos !

    Tonefinder
    Participant

    Umm Chris from 2015: Alex was not “triggering” drum sounds in 1979 lol

    CHRIS
    Participant

    Tonefinder,

    The original post said “Poundcake”, which was released in 1991.  I don’t know what year Alex started using Simmons (or similar) drums, but I would imagine it was before 1991.

    Phenix 2
    Participant

    the question is not about that but to find an ezx or a solution to sound like Van Halen

    for me it would be : Jump

    this sound

    You can subscribe to my free Youtube channel for the drums (so with a lot of Toontrack )
    > Check it out because there are a lot of demos !

    CHRIS
    Participant

    x_name,

    Are you saying “Poundcake” is not a Van Halen song?

    Phenix 2
    Participant

    no

    i was talking about “jump” it sounds good

    maybe it’s not very hard for EZD or EZX

    You can subscribe to my free Youtube channel for the drums (so with a lot of Toontrack )
    > Check it out because there are a lot of demos !

    Phenix 2
    Participant

    Seventies rock ezx (but with a dark sound included  so not modern )

    You can subscribe to my free Youtube channel for the drums (so with a lot of Toontrack )
    > Check it out because there are a lot of demos !

    Dean Sanvido
    Participant

    necro answer but with so many unanswered questions on the web, it’s nice to follow up.

    Listening to the unchained snare, I tried the vintage rock pack, slingerland snare, in the mixer mute the snare bottom.  tune to -0.3.  compress and reverb to taste.  it won’t win any awards but here it is.

     

    Dean Sanvido
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