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  • stpete111
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    A-ha, exactly the thread I was looking for – if I didn’t find it, I was going to start it.  Only the folks inside Toontrack know for sure whether or not this is being worked on, and they certainly aren’t going to chime in here to confirm or deny it (well, maybe they would deny it), but here are my thoughts:

    If anyone could achieve a good guitar VI, it’s Toontrack, but (big but), it’s never going to happen if they don’t take an entirely different approach than other developers have with respect to building a polyphonic guitar VI.  I am someone who has been on the search for that great (not even perfect, just great!) guitar VI – I have purchased ALL of them.  You name the company – I own AT LEAST one of their guitar VI’s.  I’ve been on this self-inflicted search for the holy grail of guitar VI for almost 20 years.  No one, and I mean NO ONE, has perfected it yet.  Each one has it’s own strength, and each one has a feature(s) that others don’t, but I have yet to find one that does it all, and even then, it’s gotta be somewhat user-friendly, right?

    Someone earlier in this thread said “the engine that would be the basis for EZGuitar exists within EZBass. It’s only a matter of fleshing it out so that it can by applied to guitar.”  I couldn’t disagree with this statement more.  Every instrument Toontrack has released to date is either monophonic or percussion, and while they’ve stupendously risen to the challenges of creating those kinds of VI’s, guitar provides a completely different set of challenges.  Anyone who has any experience using guitar VI’s knows what those challenges are.  I am a guitar player of 25 years, and my attraction to this subject is despite my ability to just record the guitar parts myself, b/c it allows me to create guitar parts that I have in my head immediately, where I otherwise would need to practice for hours to get the part right, and/or do massive amounts of editing, not to mention that when doing metal and djent-type stuff specifically, tight, perfect timing of the guitar is everything to the sound, which is easily achieved with MIDI.  But being a guitar player also makes me way more critical of the realism (lack thereof) of the sound coming out of a guitar VI.  All this said, I’m sure some of the guitar VI’s out there are perfectly capable for non-guitar-playing folks who are just trying to get a simple part down as part of a composition.

    While I could go on for paragraphs in more detail about this subject, I’ll just end by saying that if anyone can create an amazing guitar VI, it’s Toontrack.  But I also believe Toontrack would not put out a sub-par product even if they put years and years of R&D into it.  As a developer myself, and having really dug deep into all the guitar VI’s out there, I truly believe that the guitar is an instrument that can not be fully duplicated using software and scripting.  It just can not.  Can parts of it be duplicated, as in certain types of articulations?  Yes, absolutely.   If Toontrack is working on this or is planning to, I believe they are going to have to take an entirely new and revolutionary approach than any other developer to date has done.  If they can crack that code, they will certainly nail it, and if they do, I will pay nearly any dollar amount they ask for it.

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    stpete111
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    I would actually be ok with just graphics of a generic drum kit. But it’s not even that. It’s a Roland kick pad and two other floating electronic pads?? WTH?

    I don’t need fancy glitzy graphics to use my Evil Drums, but please, at least just a generic drum kit!

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