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[rentadrummer]

Just to add to what Juicy said, after you open the second instance you need to select which kit pieces you want to use from each instance and set the others to None. Otherwise, you’ll trigger both snares, kicks, etc. in each instance, and you might also run into a memory issue.

[rentadrummer]

Glad I was able to help, and thanks for letting me know that my suggestion worked.

Most of what I do is drum track related, so I’m not an expert when it comes to all things DP. Having said that, I discovered the Drum Editor window long ago and have been preaching its benefits ever since.

[rentadrummer]

I don’t use EZDrummer very much since I started using Superior 2, so if I’m wrong about this, I’m sure someone else will chime in.

If I remember correctly, the individual outs are audio assignments, not MIDI. In other words, you can send kick, snare, toms, etc. to individual mono or stereo audio tracks, but not separate MIDI tracks. And even if you could send to MIDI tracks, it’s probably not necessary because there’s a simple way to edit the drums in one track using the Drum Editor in DP. It has all the tools available that you would need, and you can see the entire drum track in one grid. After you drag your grooves to DP, select the drum editor and you can arrange the individual instruments from top to bottom in the order you prefer. I’ve used it for so long that to me it’s like reading a drum chart, and I don’t think there’s a better tool available in DP for doing this.

If you don’t like the Drum Editor and still want to separate the notes into individual MIDI tracks, I think you’ll need to use the Split Notes feature, which is probably under the Region Menu. I don’t use it, so I’m that familiar with its features, but I’m sure you can find it in the manual. The problem I see when doing it this way is that then you’ll need to use multiple instances of EZDrummer, one per each MIDI track, and I don’t know if you want to go down that road.

As for routing to audio tracks, you need to set up a mono or stereo audio track in DP for each instrument, and assign the input of that track to a bus that corresponds with the output of EZDrummer. You’ll see all the EZD outputs listed in the pulldown menu for Input assignment in the Tracks window of DP. I used to use multiple instances of EZDrummer and route them to six separate audio tracks, but this was after I had completed recording and editing the MIDI track.

[rentadrummer]

Are you sure you want separate MIDI tracks, or do you mean separate Audio tracks? I’m asking because I use Digital Performer and don’t think separate MIDI tracks will be of any benefit, but not knowing what you’re trying to accomplish I could be wrong. You can always use the Split Notes feature to separate the MIDI track into individual tracks after the MIDI sequence is recorded, but I think you’re going to have problems triggering one instance of EZD if you do that. If you can explain what you want to do in a little more detail, it would be EZier to know what to suggest.

[rentadrummer]

You can go to the mapping window in S2, highlight the snare drum, choose select all, and try different combinations of velocity curves to find the one that works best for you.

[rentadrummer]

I have the preset and was going to upload it but I get a message saying the file type is unsupported. Since it’s not a gif, txt or jpg, I’m not sure if I can post it or not.

[rentadrummer]

Can’t believe this thread came alive again.

I played around with this preset when I first got it and I really didn’t think it sounded anything like the kit in the video. If I remember correctly it was also missing one of the toms and crashes, so it makes me wonder how accurate it is, and how much processing was done outside of S2. To me, the pitch of the hi hats in the video is so different from the stock 16″ hats included in the Allaire kit, that at first I thought it was possible NirZ might have used some hi hats from one of the other kits as an xdrum, but that wouldn’t make sense if it’s a video that’s supposed to be showcasing the sounds of Allaire.

If John no longer has the file, I can find it and upload it, so you can hear it for yourselves.

[rentadrummer]

ORIGINAL: santa claus

One final point to get the rant out of my system is that there is only one good ride in all the libraries, the dry ride in the Avatar library (can’t remember its exact name). Strange that this one is the only one that sounds great out of all those rides available in all the libraries. All the rest are either too washy, or sound flat and like they are hit with a drumstick with a broken wooden tip. More “vinyl tip” sounds, please. Some attack and clarity is sorely needed.

Rant over.

That pretty much sums up my feelings. I like everything about S2 and the various expansions I own, except for the selection of ride cymbals. I’ve gone back to one of the rides from the Nashville EZDrummer expansion, which has much more definition and I always used before I got S2. I’m just not sure that I’ve been successful at getting the ambience to match when using it as an Xdrum with the Allaire kit.

[rentadrummer]

If you have a MIDI file playing a crescendo on the Ride, or any instrument, you can try using the same file and mapping it to play a crash cymbal.

[rentadrummer]

I found that increasing the Hi Hat Offset from the one set automatically by the TD-20 also helps produce a tighter hi hat sound.

Press Trigger
Press Hi Hat
Raise Hi Hat Offset until you hear a tighter sound when striking the hi hat and the pedal is depressed

[rentadrummer]

Even if you knew they were 14″ Zildjian hi hats or whatever, and found the same size and brand sampled in one of the S2 kits, they could still sound completely different from those you hear on the record. You can line up 10 pairs of 14″ Zildjian hi hats and no two pair would necessarily sound alike. I can speak from experience having spent a lifetime in various music stores auditioning cymbals. That’s not to say you can’t find something in one of the expansions that sounds like what you’re looking for, but there’s no guarantee that matching the name will have anything to do with the end result you’re looking for. It’s probably just a good place from which to start the search.

[rentadrummer]

As posted on the Motunation forum, where I answered the same question:

You have to route each instrument in EZD to a bus, which is selected at the bottom of the individual channels in the EZD mixer, and then assign corresponding busses as inputs for individual audio tracks in DP. The kick will default to Out 1/2, so the next one, say snare, would be bus 3/4, toms bus 5/6, etc. You need to create as many individual mono or stereo audio tracks in DP as you have busses in EZD. It’s been a while since I used EZD, but I think that’s correct, and should get you started.

[rentadrummer]

Thanks! You da man!

[rentadrummer]

I don’t use a different cable because I still play rim shots, but I want them to produce the head sound. There’s another thread where I asked if Nir Z might have done the same thing in the video that’s shown for the New York Studios Volume 2 expansion, or remapped S2, because I don’t hear any rim sounds when he plays. To me it sounds like the higher velocities produced by the head sound, which I prefer.

[rentadrummer]

The only remapping that I found necessary was to change the snare rim to play the head sound, so both head and rim trigger the same sound, a couple of crashes because they were playing the same notes, and two toms since I like to use the 10″, 12″, 14″ and 16″. I don’t know why that would be detrimental or cause compatibility issues. Are we talking about the same thing?

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