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[Nathan]

I just wonder when people ask support Qs in the presales forums if they’ve forgotten their original logins. You’re probably party to more information than I am

I used to see complaints when people’s posts were moved out of their reach. Still, moot point now…

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[Nathan]

Not speaking for TT here, this is just my personal observation, but I don’t think it fits well with their sampling key sets.

The hammond sound is a combination of the drawbars and the rotary cab. This is an incredible number of combinations of settings, and some of the sound and feel is in being able to change thigs during the performance. I think this is why the instrument tends to lend itself to modelling rather than sampling.

I’d love to see them do it justice, but I think it would need to come with a few GB of sounds, and it would also need rather more plugin parameter access or MIDI control than any of the EZK libraries so far. Hammond is just a different animal.

If you look at the best emulations, they come equipped with drawbar controller set compatibility -you can buy physical drawbar controllers that will control the plugin setting changes as you play…

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[Nathan]

Has the OP forgotten his forum login?

This may have been moved out of his access area if he has…

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[Nathan]

Nope, Evil Drums is Superior Drummer only.

Getting hard to find now too 🙁

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[Nathan]

Try finding an option in the prefs to run plugins while the transport is stopped.

That caught me out with Superior Drummer.

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[Nathan]

That sounds like you’re running a 32-bit version of EZD in a 64-bit version of REAPER.

Your groove is a MIDI section that will drag into a REAPER track. Different notes in that MIDI item correspond to different instruments or articulations of instruments (eg centre snare, rimshot snare, sidestick). The multiple audio outputs from EZD that are sent to your REAPER tracks are single or combined microphone channels from the original EZD session. So, MIDI in to play the different kit instruments (drums, cymbals), audio out from the recording session mics.

Incidentally if you’ve built your multiple tracks out for EZD and it’s still outputting all audio on just the one track, you probably need to set the EZD mixer’s plugin output channels to match the sends in REAPER’s routing.

Hope that made sense…

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[Nathan]

I got this when I first got Superior Drummer and it drove me nuts finding it. You need an option checked in REAPER Prefs to run plugins when the transport is stopped.

Not in front of REAPER, but I’ll post details when I am if you’ve not found it. Probably in Prefs/plugins or similar?

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[Nathan]

My post crossed over with your last one, you can use MIDI numbers for notes if that helps.

C0 is MIDI note 12, the F# above C0 (F#0) is note 18 and is the “hats trig” note; the F# below C0 is F#-1 or note 6 and is assigned to a snare hit in this EZX library. Incidentally F-1 (note7) is the other note in this library that is assigned to “hats trig”.

If you are using the Pop/Rock kit, try notes 8 and 9 (G#-1 and A-1) to see if they respond to the controller wheel as you are wanting -they are two of the notes that are mapped to “hats tip trig”.

I did the mappings for HH only for the Pop/Rock kit in EZD -is that the kit you’re using? If not, let me know the one you are, and if I have it I’ll redo the hats mapping for it.

Notes and MIDI note numbers:
^^ and so on to 127 ^^
C2 MIDI note 36
B1 MIDI note 35
A#1 MIDI note 34
A1 MIDI note 33
G#1 MIDI note 32
G1 MIDI note 31
F#1 MIDI note 30
F1 MIDI note 29
E1 MIDI note 28
D#1 MIDI note 27
D1 MIDI note 26 (Open3)
C#1 MIDI note 25 (Open2)
C1 MIDI note 24 (Open1)
B0 MIDI note 23 (Open pedal -splash)
A#0 MIDI note 22 (closed edge)
A0 MIDI note 21 (Closed pedal -chick)
G#0 MIDI note 20 (Hats tip trig)
G0 MIDI note 19 (Hats tip trig)
F#0 MIDI note 18 (Hats trig)
F0 MIDI note 17 (Open3)
E0 MIDI note 16 (Open3)
D#0 MIDI note 15 (Open2)
D0 MIDI note 14 (Open2)
C#0 MIDI note 13 (Open1)
C0 MIDI note 12 (Open1)
B-1 MIDI note 11 (closed edge)
A#-1 MIDI note 10 (Closed pedal -chick)
A-1 MIDI note 9 (Hats tip trig)
G#-1 MIDI note 8 (Hats tip trig)
G-1 MIDI note 7 (Hats trig)
F#-1 MIDI note 6 (a snare hit)
F-1 MIDI note 5
E-1 MIDI note 4
D#-1 MIDI note 3
D-1 MIDI note 2
C#-1 MIDI note 1
C-1 MIDI note 0

Note: MIDI note numbers go from 0 to 127, which exceeds the range of your standard 88-key piano/master keyboard. I can fill the rest in if you let me know whatever library you’re using…

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[Nathan]

In EZD and SD2 there are two ways to trigger hi-hat: either send the MIDI note value corresponding to the hat sound at the “open-ness” you want, or send a “trigger” note and EZD will play the hi-hat, using the hi-hat pedal control value to determine how “open” a sample to play.

With triggers, the note is a standard MIDI note, but the pedal control value is a MIDI “continuous controller” message. This can come from a keyboard joystick or controller wheel, or from an e-kit brain taking values from a hi-hat controller pedal, or even a CC lane on a DAW MIDI track.

With this in mind, the trigger note could come from you DAW sequencer/ MIDI editor, a keyboard or a triggered pad or cymbal plate on an e-kit. You just need to know what triggers the correct note or know how to set it. How you generate the CC4 message from your MIDI controller wheel is going to be dependent on the controller you have and if it is settable to CC4. Also EZD (unlike SD”) does not have any CC4 value sensitivity mapping, so there is no way of tuning the openess sensitivity from within EZD.

I didn’t think EZ Drummer will responded to hi-hat foot-controller data, as it’s not described in the manual, it’s only mentioned as one of the things that Superior Drummer supports. However both EZX libraries in SD2 and in EZD itself do respond to triggered notes, despite not being described in the manual I have.

With EZD, the first method is the only one shown in the manual and in the MIDI mappings, but using SD2’s mapping page to locate the MIDI notes, and testing the mappings then on EZD, I could locate them and they do work.

Standard Hi-hat notes for the EZD Pop/Rock kit:

Closed edge: 11, 22, 122
Closed tip: 42, 61, 119
Tight edge: 62
Tight tip: 63
Open1: 12, 13, 24, 123
Open2: 14, 15, 25, 46, 120
Open3: 16, 17, 26, 121, 124
Open4: 60
Open pedal (splash): 23
Closed pedal (chick): 10, 21, 44

Triggered Notes for the EZD Pop/Rock kit:

Hats trig: 7, 18
Hats tip trig: 8, 9, 19, 20
Hat control: CC4

Remember that a high value of CC4 means a closed or tight pedal and a low value of CC4 means an open pedal.

Hope this helps you some, ask if there’s anything still confusing you.

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[Nathan]

You can use other software to turn audio into MIDI, but the results will depend upon how much time and how good the tools are you have/ can afford. I guess if it’s just for note/chord recognition and part generation, then you don’t have to go too far on it.

I’ve just recorded myself whistling (very badly) into REAPER and plonked an instance of its included ReaTune plugin on the track. I told it to output MIDI on pitch change and saved the MIDI to a second track. Played back through a soft synth it sounds remarkably as bad as me

Now I know it’s only monophonic (but so is a flute), and it doesn’t interpret volume to MIDI velocity, but this is from shareware tools that don’t cost anything to download and a time spent of less than five minutes. I think you’d need Melodyne for polyphonic sounds (chords) and I think it will try and interpret the levels, but it would owe you £300-400 if you didn’t have (access to) it already.

-Just an idea…

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