LeanderL
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Thanks! Yes, I did check out some of the midis from metal packs…and the velocities are very similar…because of triggers etc. … but I don’t like the modern metal sound with triggers.
What does “randomize hits” mean? That a snare drum at 124 velocity was recorded a couple of times and different samples are played, correct? In contrast to using the same sound all the time…to get this machine gun-like annoying sound.
SeelenPuls ~ Poetic metal from Austria: SeelenPuls.at
Grummelgnom ~ Sociocritical metal from the forest: Grummelgnom.at
Here it is.
SeelenPuls ~ Poetic metal from Austria: SeelenPuls.at
Grummelgnom ~ Sociocritical metal from the forest: Grummelgnom.at
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Thanked by: Olof HermanssonNo, the bug has been around for a long time. It is not a big issue as I just have to reload the kit after loading my Cakewalk project…but decided to report it though.
SeelenPuls ~ Poetic metal from Austria: SeelenPuls.at
Grummelgnom ~ Sociocritical metal from the forest: Grummelgnom.at
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Thanked by: Mark KingOk…it is a bug. You cannot copy your sound library, then update it. I had to download all 40 GBs again…then apply the update.
SeelenPuls ~ Poetic metal from Austria: SeelenPuls.at
Grummelgnom ~ Sociocritical metal from the forest: Grummelgnom.at
Thank you! 🙂
Another question: is it possible to paint velocity lines, for example a straight or curve? Changing each hit is a bit tedious.
SeelenPuls ~ Poetic metal from Austria: SeelenPuls.at
Grummelgnom ~ Sociocritical metal from the forest: Grummelgnom.at
Thanks! What about my slider question please?
SeelenPuls ~ Poetic metal from Austria: SeelenPuls.at
Grummelgnom ~ Sociocritical metal from the forest: Grummelgnom.at
Thank you, found it! Now I entered all tempo changes and want to set all notes to 124 velocity. Every time I click a certain icon (marked red) the program crashes. Crash report and image attached.
How can I use the velocity and randomize sliders? The mouse is not sensitive enough. I can only reduce it by a minimum of 9 but not less. How can you do this via keyboard?
http://www.seelenpuls.at/temp/crash.zip

SeelenPuls ~ Poetic metal from Austria: SeelenPuls.at
Grummelgnom ~ Sociocritical metal from the forest: Grummelgnom.at
Thanks, John! I am a Sonar user. The midi does not contain BPM…actually I set them in Guitar Pro but exporting them does not work. I set the temp changes in Sonar, tempo settings…
Navigating in Sonar works but as soon as I click in the grid editor and hit the play button there, the tempo changes are not correct.
How can I import them into the grid editor?
SeelenPuls ~ Poetic metal from Austria: SeelenPuls.at
Grummelgnom ~ Sociocritical metal from the forest: Grummelgnom.at
Help please!
Clicking the play button in the grid editor always uses the wrong BPM although host sync is enabled.
Clicking the DAW play button works but then I have to select the part I would like to listen to and edit velocities for in the DAW…doing this in the grid editor would be better.
Importing my DAW’s tempo changes does not work.
By the way, can you rename instruments? I use a huge kit with lots of pieces and “Instrument 1 – instrument 12” is confusing.
SeelenPuls ~ Poetic metal from Austria: SeelenPuls.at
Grummelgnom ~ Sociocritical metal from the forest: Grummelgnom.at
Thanks! Haven’t checked the buffer size yet because I normally use my soundcard and have set everything in the desktop icon.
Yes, Audient ID4 has an Asio driver of course.
I don’t have problems with my old Line 6 POD or when playing the keyboard and using VSTs (the libaries are on my SSD).
I have an i5 2500k @ 3.3 ghz processor by the way.
I watched your tutorial how to switch to high performance mode (Windows) etc…didn’t do this before as I thought you could just start recording. Will give it a try.
Another question, something different: how were the metal packs sounds designed (I have Metal Gods 1 & 3, Metal Ampes and some others). Almost all of the patches need further EQing has way too much bass. I have an Ibanez RG 350 EX and an Ibanez RGAIX6U-ABS with Bareknuckle Aftermath humbuckers.
SeelenPuls ~ Poetic metal from Austria: SeelenPuls.at
Grummelgnom ~ Sociocritical metal from the forest: Grummelgnom.at
What should I do now? Change velocities and keep soft hits at 45 (not 85)? Change the snare? The problem is that the kit sounds good but does not react to velocity changes well (not just the snare but also kick drum etc.).
SeelenPuls ~ Poetic metal from Austria: SeelenPuls.at
Grummelgnom ~ Sociocritical metal from the forest: Grummelgnom.at
Did some tests with velocities 85-127.
My kit sounds the same in SD2+MF and SD3.

1) My kit based on J. Skog – LOG (if I remember correctly)…with Ludwig Supraphonic snare. Sounds natural and the different velocities are clearly audible and visible.
2) Andy Sneap Kit 1
3) Black Metal
4) Andy Sneap Kit 3 (the basis for my current kit)…you clearly see the difference is lost! 🙁
5) Andy Sneap Kit 3 snare, xsnare and reverb muted… compressor on snare bottom and snare top disabled. Finally the velocity curve is better.
6) Andy Sneap Kit 3 snare…same settings as above but all effects on snare bottom and snare top disabled.
The effects destroy the velocities…but it’s still strange that Andy Sneap uses effects and settings that result in a monotone snare (4). I can change the settings but then the sound is lost as well. 🙁
I don’t think this can be fixed…the workaround is to adjust velocities of all drum tracks I created with SD2+MF…but it would also mean that your midi files don’t work well with all kits as some are sensitive, some produce almost the same sound for velocities 85-127.
SeelenPuls ~ Poetic metal from Austria: SeelenPuls.at
Grummelgnom ~ Sociocritical metal from the forest: Grummelgnom.at
Thank you!
SeelenPuls ~ Poetic metal from Austria: SeelenPuls.at
Grummelgnom ~ Sociocritical metal from the forest: Grummelgnom.at
Thanks! When will the patch go live?
SeelenPuls ~ Poetic metal from Austria: SeelenPuls.at
Grummelgnom ~ Sociocritical metal from the forest: Grummelgnom.at
Installed the update yesterday. Still SD3 crashes when trying to edit a midi (pattern editor) and opens infinite “x has crashed” windows.
SeelenPuls ~ Poetic metal from Austria: SeelenPuls.at
Grummelgnom ~ Sociocritical metal from the forest: Grummelgnom.at
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