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[John]

Hi,

currently you cannot turn the main piano off, only turn down/up the pads volume. The pads layer isn’t available via separate outs either. Maybe something for the wish list?

Maybe something similar to this pad is amongst the pads in the Synthwave EKX?

Scott, it’s in the Session Grand ‘Pads’ Preset list.

BR,
John

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Hi Marc,

I am slightly confused now – is this another problem or is it the same?
You initially wrote about the EZdrummer 3 plug-in had poor sound and lost articulations when MIDI was dragged to the Clip slot compared to when played back from within EZD3, so is this what you meant? The closed HH is being played back as open when played back from the Clip slot in Live?

If so, I would first check the ‘E-Drums/MIDI In’ page by clicking the small menu in the lower right corner of the plug-in (right next to the ‘MIDI’ label).
There’s a Preset drop-down list in the top of that page, where ‘Toontrack Standard’ usually is the Default. Please select another Preset and then go back to the Toontrack Standard.
Play back the groove from the Clip Slot.
Is it still Open instead of Closed?
If so, I would suspect something is sending CC1 (Modulation wheel) or CC4 to the plug-in. While on the MIDI In page, you should see what kind of MIDI is sent to the plug-in in the inspector in the lower left part on that page, right below the assigned notes.

Do you see CC1 or CC4 there?

If so, please check connected MIDI controllers, I have seen similar situations where among things a faulty mod wheel on a connect keyboard was sending erratic CC1 data even if it wasn’t used.

BR,
John

John Rammelt - Toontrack
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Hi Marc,

I am slightly confused now – is this another problem or is it the same?
You initially wrote about the EZdrummer 3 plug-in had poor sound and lost articulations when MIDI was dragged to the Clip slot compared to when played back from within EZD3, so is this what you meant? The closed HH is being played back as open when played back from the Clip slot in Live?

If so, I would first check the ‘E-Drums/MIDI In’ page by clicking the small menu in the lower right corner of the plug-in (right next to the ‘MIDI’ label).
There’s a Preset drop-down list in the top of that page, where ‘Toontrack Standard’ usually is the Default. Please select another Preset and then go back to the Toontrack Standard.
Play back the groove from the Clip Slot.
Is it still Open instead of Closed?
If so, I would suspect something is sending CC1 (Modulation wheel) or CC4 to the plug-in. While on the MIDI In page, you should see what kind of MIDI is sent to the plug-in in the inspector in the lower left part on that page, right below the assigned notes.

Do you see CC1 or CC4 there?

If so, please check connected MIDI controllers, I have seen similar situations where among things a faulty mod wheel on a connect keyboard was sending erratic CC1 data even if it wasn’t used.

BR,
John

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[John]

Oli Poulsen wrote:

I do miss some of the dfh sounds…

Yeah, I actually also miss the old Percussionist library…

BR,
John

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[John]

Hi,

do you have an open Support Ticket with Toontrack? If not, I think you might want to open one via one of the FAQ pages.
The message does not necessarily mean that the file in question can’t be copied because it doesn’t exist in the install package, it could also mean that it can’t be copied because the destination isn’t available. This *could* be due to a problem with the install package, permissions or the drive(s), that’s why Brad and Jack ask these questions. A working installation that suddenly stops working and is missing files actually indicates drive problems.
Anyways, since there are many variables in this, it might get solved quicker by Toontrack Support.

BR,
John

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[John]

Hi,

SD3 does not intentionally “lock out” Superior 1 libraries, they’re just not compatible, since the plug-in and the format of the sample libraries had to evolve over 15+ years.

I have an M1 Max and M1 Ultra which both have Superior Drummer 2 installed and working, however it depends on which host you are using if you need to start it in Rosetta mode.

BR,
John

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[John]

Hi,

I don’t think it would be called a bug per se, more perhaps like there is room for improvement on the wording of the message.
There needs to be a system-wide path for Toontrack MIDI; if it doesn’t exist, the Installer wants you to specify one – the Default or a Custom location.
If you install EZdrummer 3, you don’t have a choice but to have this ‘EZdrummer’ location somewhere on your system but if you are a Superior Drummer 3 user “only”, the only time you actually need such a location is when/if you install Toontrack MIDI (not all SD3 users use pre-made MIDI) and/or EZX libraries.

But I will make a colleague at HQ aware of your post.

BR,
John

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[John]

Hi Cesar,

I wouldn’t call it an issue, user Mark King’s description above of how he handled wanting to have the sidestick articulation higher in level is very valid. Exactly how much is enough is individual, I guess.

BR,
John

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[John]

Hi,

sorry to hear you are having problems.
As per this FAQ: https://www.toontrack.com/faq/where-are-my-files-located/

the Default location for Toontrack percussive MIDI is ‘C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Toontrack\EZDrummer\Midi’ on Windows.
It can reside in a Custom location as well but then this needs to be set system-wide and for all percussive MIDI and EZX:s (EZdrummer eXpansion libraries, should you have any).
I.e. the ‘C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Toontrack\EZDrummer\’ folder, which is the parent folder for the MIDI can be custom located elsewhere but all subsequently installed MIDI or EZX products will go into this location and it can’t be split over different locations.

I hope this helps,
John

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[John]

Hi Marc,

sorry for the delay. Yes, I tried your Project but didn’t get any unexpected behaviour from it; playing the clip from the Session View sounds exactly the same as from within EZDrummer 3. I have tried figuring out what could be the difference on your system but I have no good guess yet. I was thinking about if you get some kind of MIDI loop but then you would experience that with your other instruments. Still, can you check if ‘MIDI Out’ is Enabled in the EZD3 plug-in and if it is, Disable it and see if it makes any difference?

BR,
John

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[John]

Hmmm… that’s strange. What does the content of your ‘EZX_Cocktail’ look like? Mine looks like this:

And it’s supposed to look like this in EZD3:

While maybe obvious, I need to ask if you have closed and reopened EZdrummer 3 in between copying the files?
Have you rebooted your Mac?

BR,
John

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[John]

Hi,

you can install the Superior Drummer 2 software separately, the 2.4.4 installer should be available in your account.
If the sounds used in the old songs are still present on your system and linked to the version 2 instrument, they should load as expected.

BR,
John

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[John]

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BR,
John

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BR,
John

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[John]

Hi,

there is no current installer for this long ago discontinued product, which was the point of the OP and my detailed reply on how to manually copy it and its MIDI files onto a current system. I thought you had read my first reply but was unable to open the disk image.

I suggest you read my reply to the OP and if you follow my instructions, there should be no problem but since it involves manually copying into folders inside the ‘Library/Application Support/EZdrummer’ folder, the red warning sticker remains: neither I nor Toontrack can be responsible if you accidentally overwrite/delete stuff.

BR,
John

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[John]

Hi,

there are two issues in your screen shots:

1. Your bandmate’s GB Project was saved with EZdrummer 1 or 2, EZdrummer 3 would be named ‘EZdrummer 3’ not just ‘EZdrummer’. EZdrummer 3 is another plug-in and does not automatically replace EZdrummer 1/2.
2. In that plug-in list, there should be an entry for ‘AU Generators’ and ‘AU Instruments’ if this was an Instrument Track but there is only an ‘Audio Units’ entry, which implies it is not an Instrument Track but instead an Audio Track. I.e. it is not strange that Toontrack/EZdrummer 3 isn’t on that list.

BR,
John

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[John]

Hi,

can you please specify which EZX and MIDI Preset you are using?

BR,
John

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