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Good question.
To at least go much of the way towards finding out, I added the ReaEQ effect in REAPER onto a track with one kit piece soloed on it.
Here’s a screenshot of trying to find the pitch of the default Racktom 1 on the Avatar kit.

http://www.godprobe.com/temp/Tom1PitchEstimation.jpg (full REAPER image)

It might fall somewhere closer to D# or even C, but using a notch filter around that frequency with a narrow Q/Bandwidth seemed to get rid of the majority of the dominant pitch of the tom.
Happily, ReaEQ gives the note pitch as well as the frequency so you don’t have to look somewhere else for the conversion.

I used bounced wav files, in case I needed to look at them in a wave editor, but I don’t think that was necessary in this case.

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[godprobe]

As far as I know, the guest drummer MIDI from the Drumkit From Hell EZX is the only Toontrack MIDI that has CC4 data in it.
I assume that’s because it was overlooked (as well as a couple other CCs in that MIDI that don’t usually correspond to anything in EZDrummer/Superior Drummer), and the exclusion of CC4 data from later MIDI is probably just to ensure compatibility and that there’s no… wonkiness? 😛 …with other hosts/plugins (never know what a CC4 might trigger somewhere else and it wouldn’t be an obvious place to check when weird behavior crops up).

If you mean whether the MIDI packs themselves have identical mapping, I don’t think they do (the metal packs, for example, use the extra kick much more often), but they definitely seem to follow the general rules from my prior post.
If you mean whether the sound libraries have identical mapping, again… they follow general rules, but they aren’t exactly the same — here’s a spreadsheet I maintain that outlines the default sound library mapping…
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AsWMEXuWvqSIdFBaNnBhTFBBZXJZb1F0UThzVXhibmc&hl=en
…which might also give you some clues on why the MIDI packs are generalized and not necessarily specific articulations.

P.S. good to see yet another Axe-Fx user here 😉

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Thanked by: vajranatha

[godprobe]

Of the packs I’ve looked at, most of the hits fall within the standard General MIDI Drums range…
http://www.midi.org/techspecs/gm1sound.php#percussion
…using notes 35 through 59 for roughly the same kit pieces as GM Drums states (depending on the library that’s actually loaded).
Notes 60, 62, and 63 are also commonly used in the packs for various Hi-hat hits, since GM Drums usually doesn’t cover all of the articulations provided in the Toontrack sound libraries.
Similarly, there are additional hits below note 35, mostly for extra cymbal hits (particularly notes 27-32) and more hats (particularly notes 11-26).  And there are a couple of outliers above 63 as well (usually extra tom hits).

I know it’s not a “here’s the mapping! :)” answer, but hopefully it helps.

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[godprobe]

updated 2010.03.25 – Version 1.03
– added EZX The Classic / 4-Mic

http://www.godprobe.com/projects/notemaps/

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[godprobe]

I think the idea is that it *won’t* be confusing when additional MIDI is added, actually.
The name is generated on-the-fly, so the formula will even work with third-party and user MIDI files (and so no, there’s not really any list).

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[godprobe]

File > Project Templates > Save project as template…

You can also set up a default project for Reaper to automatically load every time on startup under Preferences (Ctrl-P on Windows) > Project > “Project settings” > “When creating new projects, use the following project file as a template:” > and browse to any saved Reaper project you want to use.

If I’m not using a template, I’ll usually load VSTs up by clicking on the… thing… …I don’t know what it’s called… in Reaper, above the track in the Mixer (you might need to stretch your view to see this area)… here’s a vid I did a while ago showing that with Superior (was showing something about the Bounce feature in the vid).
https://content.wuala.com/contents/godprobe/Shared/stereOH/stereOH.avi?key=7KYcm6bbtxtx
Pulls up the VST in two clicks and two double-clicks.

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[godprobe]

most likely, it’s…
EZD Pop/Rock > 4/4 Shuffle 50-130BPM Pop/Rock > Groove 10 > 09. Hats 8th Tight Closed Open/Ghost

first letter of each “word” (EZD Pop/Rock)
when there’s more than one that will fit that pattern, lower-case letters are appended, starting with “b”, then “c”, “d”, “e”, etc. (the second (b) entry for “Pop Rock”)
Groove 10
Numbers are, I think, taken as their full value (09. Hats 8th Tight Closed Open/Ghost)

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[godprobe]

ditto for Reaper

what are you using, Phajo?

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[godprobe]

Most likely, yes, your guess is correct
I don’t know Sonar, but I know that in my sequencer, it will stop the wav output render at the end of the last bar, even if there are echoing tails after that
So, what I usually do, since it’s the quickest and easiest most of the time, is render out a “time selection” (and select a time region with my mouse) instead of using the default “render entire project” selection
Hopefully Sonar has something similar, and hopefully that’s actually the problem!
If you can’t find that option or just don’t feel like hunting for it right now, try adding a dummy track with blank MIDI (or a silent WAV file) that’s placed just past the end of the song.

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