drumjack52
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drumjack52Fr thank you so much – this is super helpful. I figured out a way to install the SDX’s I want without going over my internal storage limit but I definitely still think I’ll need an external hard drive at some point.
The old laptop was a 13-inch 2020 macbook pro with 8gb of RAM and like 250gb of storage, current laptop is the 16-inch 2023 macbook pro with 1TB and 16gb of RAM. I didn’t really think there were many opportunities to upgrade macbooks after buying them so I’ll definitely check out that link.
I’m curious now, since you said latency would be due to the interface, if there are any updates/upgrades to my current setup that I could make to reduce latency even more. The edrums are connected to a td-27 that connects to a presonus 24C through a midi cable and that’s the input I use for SP3. No worries if nothing comes to mind, I appreciate the input so far.
Reply To: Storage Management – Uninstalling MIDI and specific sounds that I don’t use version: 3.3.6
Operating system: macOS Ventura (13)
You’d not be upgrading anything internal but adding on stuff outside the computer. And you’re right – Apple’s made it so you can’t upgrade internals by yourself. If you are running SD3 standalone go to the audio/MIDI setup in SD3 and change the number of buffers there. A lower number will give you less latency at the expense of cpu usage and possible audio hiccups. You’ll have to experiment with that.
There’s also another latency people don’t talk about and that’s MIDI latency. There’s nothing you can do about that.
Jack
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Superior Drummer 3.4.1
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Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
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Thanked by: Tateb13drumjack52I previously ran everything through an external SSD on my old laptop but I was told that loading the sounds from a separate hard drive was contributing to my latency issues. I have 16gb of RAM on my current laptop vs the previous 8gb so that’s significantly improved latency but I’m curious if you think I’d be able to move the files to an external hard drive without latency issues with the edrum connection. Thanks for helping me out here
Reply To: Storage Management – Uninstalling MIDI and specific sounds that I don’t use version: 3.3.6
Operating system: macOS Ventura (13)
With a fast connection for the drive and some form of ssd (think nvme drive) you’ll be in good shape. What you were told on whatever old laptop you had doesn’t apply to the new one. It’s a whole new ball game with the new Macs. What was the old laptop and exactly what new laptop do you have? For a good look at what you can get for your setup take a look at what OWC at http://www.macsales.com/ has. Good people. FYI when you say ‘Mac Pro’ most people think you’re talking about the desktop Mac and not a laptop. The laptops are commonly something like MacBook Pro or close to that.
As to latency that’s mostly due to your audio interface and not so much the loading time from a sample drive.
Jack
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Thanked by: Tateb13drumjack52Why not just get a decent external drive and store your samples there? You probably have a Thunderbolt connection of some type so use that. Deleting presets won’t help you gain all that much space. Same thing for kits. You’d have to delete specific samples as kits just grab whatever samples they need to make up the kit. There’s no easy way to find out exactly what samples you’ll need to delete. The samples are pretty much a monolithic block.
Jack
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Thanked by: Tateb13drumjack52You really don’t want to do what you’re trying especially in Terminal as it’s sketchy at best. You really should do it in your daw. Screw up in Terminal and you could brick your computer. Not worth it.
Jack
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Superior Drummer 3.4.1
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drumjack52Is the Orchestral Percussion SDX considered as an own instance? Could I connect the e-drum kit and a Octapad to the the SDX. Given the price, I tend to think so, but is also labeled an SDX, which I guess means it is just another set of sounds that is to be used in Superior Drummer.
(Sorry for a real newbie question…)
Just because it’s another SDX doesn’t necessarily mean it’s another instance of SD3. If you run in your daw then you could have it on one instance and a second instance of SD3 to host whatever other kit you want. Again – in standalone you can only have one instance of SD3 at a time.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
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Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
drumjack52Thanks for quick response!
Great to hear that it is possible. Not so great to realize that a lot of midi mapping is needed 😵💫
I will use it both as a standalone (most of the time) and in Reason sometimes for recording.
Maybe a stupid question: If I use my e-drum kit, I use all but 4 instruments/”slots” in Superior Drummer. So 4 more pads only? So if I connect the Octapad, I can only use half of the pads? Or is it possible to expand the kits in Superior Drummer? It seems like the Orchestral SDX have a lot more to play at the same time, but that I can just guess from image on Toontrack.com
What are these 4 instrument slots you’re talking about? If you’re talking about ‘add an instrument’ I just tried and I could load in 8 ‘instruments’ of varying percussions, etc. And this is on top of a kit in the Death library that has 2 kicks, 3 rack toms, 2 floor toms and a full complement of cymbals.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
drumjack52You might be able to achieve the original objective if your e-kit modules support setting the midi channel value. I have successfully done what you are asking by setting one e-kit module to produce midi with channel 10 and the other channel 11. Then in my DAW I created two SD3 tracks with midi channel filters to route the midi notes accordingly based on channel value. You can then setup two independent SD3 kits that should work at the same time, each being driven from a separate e-kit module.
You might be able to do the same with two instances of standalone SD3 as it has a midi channel filter as well, but I’ve not tried to do this.
Reply To: Connect both an e-drum-kit and Roland SPD Octapad to Superior Drummer 3? version: 3.3.6
Operating system: macOS Ventura (13)
Can’t do two instances of SD3 in standalone, at least on a Mac. Doesn’t matter that you can set the MIDI channel to one of your choice. So it’s in a daw. Period.
Jack
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Superior Drummer 3.4.1
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PT 2021.6
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drumjack52You can only have one kit active at a time in SD3. So both Roland pieces would work at the same time to that one kit. The hardest part is working out the pad assignments such that hits aren’t duplicated between the two and what hits activate which kit pieces in SD3. This means you’re going to have to do some extensive MIDI mapping in either SD3 or the Rolands.
ARe you going to use SD3 standalone or in a daw? If the latter then you’re going to have to see how the daw handles multiple MIDI devices on a single virtual instrument like SD3.
Jack
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Thanked by: Johan Doveliusdrumjack52Developers don’t tend to talk about what may or may not be in an update. Besides I’d think Bandmate would be in a whole number update.
Jack
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Superior Drummer 3.4.1
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Death and Darkness 1.0.1
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drumjack52Correct.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
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drumjack52Aggregate devices will indeed work in your case, since they are all USB.
Have fun.
Jord
The op only needs one interface at a time so would aggregate really help? I’d only use aggregate if running more than one interface at a time.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
drumjack52Cool that you got it sorted. Good luck with the setup.
And as always – have extra drum sticks – you can never have too many.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
drumjack52The impression I get from this thread is that Toontrack doesn’t care about what their users need. Face it – we are being ignored on this issue.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
1
Thanked by: Nigel Watsondrumjack52You’re still looking at an operating system level issue which SD3 can’t address. Something that is not clear – are you talking about renumbering things in SD3 or somewheres else? And really does it matter what the numbers are in SD3? Not trying to be snarky but trying to understand what you’re trying to get at. Do I understand it that you want to renumber things depending on the interface in use? But renumber where?
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
drumjack52What is your audio interface at home? It sounds like you’re using multiple USB connections with the two A&H mixers. Is SD3 running in multichannel mode? You’re using all 32 channels of the mixers for SD3? As I said it seems this isn’t really an SD3 issue.
Have a safe 4th of July
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
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