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[Brooks H]

I asked a similar question in another thread. Linking MIDI is a pain in this regard. Most grooves default to 120BPM.  Luckily some of them have the actual BPM in the groove name.

The ability to change the tempo of grooves in the browser in their right click menu would be nice.

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[Brooks H]

I you’re referring to the SD3 grooves like I am, people actually use that? Seems like that’s covered by the MIDI Editor; moving a pattern from one instrument/articulation to another.

Seems like the MIDI In settings could be put to better use when it comes to the SD3 grooves, like remapping the articulations from one note to another; kick from 36 to 34, for example, especially since the internal MIDI settings can’t do it.

Ehh well. Thanks though.

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[Brooks H]

I don’t understand what, but the MIDI In remapping is doing something to the SD3 grooves.

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[Brooks H]

Henrik Ekblom wrote:

I was mistaken, the MIDI is not “reverse mapped” when dragged from Superior Drummer 3 to a DAW, so you are correct in that nothing happens in that scenario. So all transforms are made when MIDI is going in to SD3 – either by having MIDI in the DAW, or dragging a MIDI file in to SD3.

Had to go back. I didn’t get this when you said it. OK, so what I’m trying to do can’t be done? If that’s the final answer, that kills my whole workflow.

What is the theory behind making this so complicated? Why not a universal MIDI mapping, in & out? What’s the purpose of separating them with no option to match/link them?

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[Brooks H]

Henrik Ekblom wrote:

You have the kick notes on note 36 in the Superior Drummer 3 MIDI, and the kick is listening to note 36 – so it works when you have the MIDI in Superior Drummer 3.

Yeah, I’m lost. My attempt was to map Kick Open & Kick Hit to A0/33 & A#0/34. And I see that under Note In and To Articulation. Then under the Mapping tab, I see that translating (not sure what I’m looking at now or what to call it) to 35 and 36, Kick Hit & Kick Open. Is this not correct if I want the MIDI to drag out to A0/33 & A#0/34?

Took some poking around, but OK, in the MIDI Mapping Property Box, I also see the Kick Hit & Open on 35 & 36. But this is the internal MIDI, right. I thought I didn’t want to touch this.

 

Henrik Ekblom wrote:

In the MIDI mapping, you have set up note 36 to be mapped to note 127, which leads to that it plays the snare rimshot when you drag it to the DAW!

This is where I really get lost. I don’t have anything remapped to note 127. But I’m on my travelling computer, so maybe I didn’t map them the same. That’s be a hell of a miss though. On this one, the default is a brush stroke.

 

Henrik Ekblom wrote:

Further, you had mapped note 33 and 34 to note 36 (the kick), but I don’t think you have any notes that plays either 33 or 34, so that mapping doesn’t do anything.

I just don’t know what I’m doing, or I’m misunderstand the instructions or what’s possible.

 

Is it possible to change MIDI In mapping and have that work on SD3 grooves dragged from the browser to the Song Creator? And then drag & drop that from the Song Creator to my DAW with that MIDI In mapping in tact? If so, how?

You mention the internal MIDI mapping. To get the results I want, is it necessary to change those as well? I remember you saying changing those will force the SD3 grooves to play incorrectly.

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[Brooks H]

Henrik Ekblom wrote:

Scroll to the top, on the top right side there’s an Unsubscribe button.

• This post was modified 5 years, 10 months ago by Henrik Ekblom.

That’s what I thought, but I wasn’t subscribed. I subscribed and unsubscribed. Let’s see.

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[Brooks H]

Henrik Ekblom wrote:

I checked the project you attached.

You have the kick notes on note 36 in the Superior Drummer 3 MIDI, and the kick is listening to note 36 – so it works when you have the MIDI in Superior Drummer 3.

In the MIDI mapping, you have set up note 36 to be mapped to note 127, which leads to that it plays the snare rimshot when you drag it to the DAW!

Further, you had mapped note 33 and 34 to note 36 (the kick), but I don’t think you have any notes that plays either 33 or 34, so that mapping doesn’t do anything.

• This post was modified 5 years, 10 months ago by Henrik Ekblom.

I’ll be able to look at the project in a couple of hours. But help me understand how to remap articulations. What I did was go to Settings / MIDI In, select an articulation, hit “Learn” and hit the pad/key I want it assigned to. It seemed to work.

Why did this work for the snares but not the kick. How does the kick end up 36 in one place and 127 in another? Is that 127 the MIDI out mapping that I didn’t change?

In MIDI In settings, I filtered so only kicks would show. There were 2 instances. I changed both of them to C1 (I guess that’s 36). There are kicks in the groove. How is 36, formerly 33 & 34 not in the groove?

And what can I do about the duplicate mappings? When I remap hats, cymbals & toms, those same articulations have additional, default mappings that don’t change.

I’m confused but happy it’s user error.

I want kits to respond to my MIDI In mapping. And I want grooves dragged to the song creator & to my DAW with that same mapping. How do I do that?

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[Brooks H]

Trying from a different computer, zipping the file.

Edit: Yup! Thanks John! The file is there despite the error I see. Hopefully that’s from me trying prior to zipping.

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[Brooks H]

I tried to attach the file but I don’t see it attached after submitting the post.  The post doesn’t show a file that I can see. Or it might be here several times from each attempt.

If it is here, I tried to use a groove utilizing a variety of kit pieces. Two things…

1. The stated issue, the kick mapped to both A0 and A#0 are not making the drop to my DAW.
2. Everything else seems to be making the drop, but much of it is dropping to default notes. Is it possible to unmap notes as my mapping is adding to, not removing default notes. Other than snares and some ride, all other hits drop to the default mapped notes.

If it’s not attached, please advise on how to attach. I clicked “Select File” under Attachments, selected the file and hit Choose. It looks like it’s there until I hit Submit.

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[Brooks H]

How do I turn off “New Reply” notifications this topic? This topic is not on my Favorite or Subscribed lists.

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[Brooks H]

I will do that this evening (US EST).

 

Thanks

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[Brooks H]

Henrik, I think you missed my last question. Or am I misunderstand?

When dragging MIDI from SD3, my kick is not making the drop into my DAWs. Everything else, at least the articulations I tested with, are dropping to the remapped notes as desired.

I’m setting MIDI In to my custom mapping, dragging a groove from the SD3 browser to the Song Creator (I didn’t try direct to DAW, but will do so), then dragging that block to my DAW. In both Logic Pro X and MPC software, the kick is not ending up in my DAW’s sequencer. All other articulations in the groove are dropped according to my custom map.

Is this a glitch? Are you able to reproduce this? My kick is mapped to both A0 and A#0.

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[Brooks H]

I’m new to SD3. Coming from Addictive Drums 2, borrowing bits & pieces from presets is not as convenient. I can’t compare to miking a real kit as I’ve never done it, though I’m certain it’s much easier in the virtual world.

I’m sure we all have our wishes for changes here and there. And that wish list shrinks the more you get used to a certain way.

Thanks for the insight. You all mentioned a couple of methods I hadn’t thought to use that should make this easier than I though.

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[Brooks H]

How much work it takes to Load Parts and get the same sound is relative. But I think we’d all agree that presets weren’t set up to mix & match parts, despite the Load Parts feature.

A nice update would be a 3rd and/or 4th option for Load Mixer if Only Selected Instrument is selected under Load Drums: Main Output Processing on group aux and/or Main Output Processing on selected channel.

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[Brooks H]

I wish the included presets didn’t utilize processing on the main output. Load Parts doesn’t work well with those, not without some additional work at least.

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