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  • Bear-Faced Cow
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    What is the peak output of your loudest kit piece? If you have a couple of DB of headroom, I wouldn’t worry too much. You can gain stage through your channel strip faders. From what you stated above, I think your waveforms are most likely good.

    jord


    Jordan L. Chilcott

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    Thanked by: roland rat
    Bear-Faced Cow
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    How are you bouncing the tracks? Are you bouncing through the mixer outputs, or the individual kit pieces? Either way, you don’t want to be near 0db  as you will risk transient distortion. It is always best to provide around 10 DB of headroom as mixes are cumulative.

    jord


    Jordan L. Chilcott

    Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

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    Thanked by: roland rat
    Bear-Faced Cow
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    Logic will indeed recognize midi commands to start and stop the sequencer. However, there is a catch: you would have to set up your drums as a control surface, which would mean that they would no longer be a midi instrument. Your best bet is to get some sort of midi floor controller to control Logic and not do it by the drum kit.

    there are also utilities out there that will convert midi commands into key commands. You would be able to control standalone with that.

    jord


    Jordan L. Chilcott

    Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

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    Thanked by: mikaelsen
    Bear-Faced Cow
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    That’s totally a bug!

    I just looked and saw all of those groove gone. I tried to reinstall to no avail.

    Somebody didn’t do any regression testing on this.

    jord


    Jordan L. Chilcott

    Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

    Bear-Faced Cow
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    Actually, Maschine is very compatible with Logic. I use both Maschine and Mikro with both Logic and SD3, along with other instruments such as Reason. it is not that complicated to set up with the NI controller editor. Plus, you can set up various pad groupings to play in different situations and playing finger styles.

    jord


    Jordan L. Chilcott

    Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

    Bear-Faced Cow
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    I think you’re being impatient considering how long it takes to produce an SDX compounded by the fact that there was a series of lockdowns which probably prevented studio access for the past year and a bit, let alone collaborating with some of the producers that they hopefully scheduled. One should probably keep in mind that there was very little action in the form of release between the release of Rock Foundry in 2017 and Death & Darkness in 2019.

    i’m pretty sure that Toontrack has something up their sleeve. In the meantime, my audio production is not suffering due to a lack of a new expansion.

    jord


    Jordan L. Chilcott

    Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

    Bear-Faced Cow
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    Yeah the thing you may want to do is go into the plug-in manager within Logic and reset and re-validate SD3. You may also have a corrupt AU Cache, which would require deleting it and revalidating all of your plug-ins.

    jord


    Jordan L. Chilcott

    Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

    Bear-Faced Cow
    Participant

    Let me know when you do. I, along with many others in the forum, can give you a hand to help you fast track your way through and come up with the sound you’re after.

    jord


    Jordan L. Chilcott

    Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

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    Thanked by: myron
    Bear-Faced Cow
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    The Core library in SD3 can handle this without any need for expansions or layering. As well, you have greater control over the mixer channels, effects and processing.

    jord


    Jordan L. Chilcott

    Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

    Bear-Faced Cow
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    It doesn’t sound like you would really need an SDX to achieve this sound. The core library would be more than capable of handling this. at most, you might need a small ambient drum room reverb within your DAW. However, impulse responses are rather common these days.

    jord


    Jordan L. Chilcott

    Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

    Bear-Faced Cow
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    I always find it curious that this amazingly deep and capable tool that Toontrack has developed, doesn’t for me, translate over to the sounds that came with it.

    Sure it does, but you have to bring it out of it. That’s part of what makes SD3 “amazingly deep and capable.“ This is always the case with any all purpose library. Specialized genres already have their processing applied. Those are the things that already you get with an SDX.

    jord


    Jordan L. Chilcott

    Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

    Bear-Faced Cow
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    While it is great that you have found an SDX that works for you, you can ask yourself what’s changed between the two libraries. If you are going to say that the drums are hit harder, I can tell you that you are wrong since Norman Garschke is the same drummer on both of those libraries, as well as a few others that I own, He is quite consistent as a session drummer.

    The main difference between those two libraries are the rooms, Recording chains and producer. That, along with the drummer, are well known factors to anybody who sat behind a mixing board. Considering that the core library is recorded with full headroom and transients intact, unless processed, they are not going to sound in your face in their raw state. It doesn’t matter how hard you hit them. The only way they are going to sound in your face is by processing them to both increase the volume and reduce the dynamics (The same foundation of the loudness wars). As well, considering that the drums get their characteristic from the room, you have to be processing the ambient channels as well as the close mic channels. Considering that there are 11 ambient channels that can be used at any given time, there is no reason why the cymbals could not be pushed through their own channel and squashed to bring them in your face. One are the kits I use in a few of my mixes is the pearl masterworks kit with no issues getting it in your face, cymbals and all, without any need to stack (although I do have some presets that I do stack to bring out certain characteristics necessary for a song). I’m not stating anything new here. These are basic concepts for anybody who sat behind a mixing board. Not to mention some sound design 101 here.

    Mind you, there are some chains that you are not going to be able to create with an SD3 alone. Producers such as Bob Rock utilize subwoofers. For that you would need your DAW to help process the drums.

    Admittedly, the only thing I really like about Hansa is the marble room. Perhaps I might’ve spent the $180 US to get it if it were not for the fact that SD3 gives me the ability to re-create that room for any kit using it’s reverbs as well as other plug-ins to shape the sound. Not to mention having that and plenty of other rooms within my DAW.

    jord


    Jordan L. Chilcott

    Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

    Bear-Faced Cow
    Participant

    You can load kicks or snares from the EZX within your other libraries by right clicking the kit piece in selecting Search for Instrument. Alternatively you can stack them on top of your other kit pieces as well.

    jord


    Jordan L. Chilcott

    Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

    Bear-Faced Cow
    Participant

    In this case, PT is responsible for your midi input and not SD3. This is why there is no midi set up in SD when instantiated as a plug-in. This goes for all plug-ins. I would suggest creating a instrument track with another software instrument and if it is not responding to your keyboard, then you need to check on novations support site in regards to ProTools.

    jord


    Jordan L. Chilcott

    Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

    Bear-Faced Cow
    Participant

    No you cannot. EZ Drummer is more for mix ready kits with low footprint where Superior Drummer is more for shaping the raw recorded samples.

    jord


    Jordan L. Chilcott

    Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/

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