VOLiTiAN – Superior 2.0 7-strings and dropped tunings..

[VOLiTiAN]

Hi all,

I’ve been bumbling around on this forum for a while now and I’ve seen peoples music and overall been really impressed with just how many talented producers writers etc and the band I’m writing for is finally getting it’s act together and starting to ramp up our production efforts.

I just wondered if anyone would like to have a listen with their input on the track and it’s mix, apologies it’s without vocals at the moment they will be added shortly I just wanted to see how we were going at this stage and how we sounded on everyone else’s system before we start introducing yet more fun variables lol

Anyway probably not to everyone’s tastes but if you could drop some pointers on this mix and maybe a few specific areas that need work on I’d really really appreciate it

So here goes – 😛

http://www.anonym.to/?http://soundclick.com/share?songid=9230152

Hope you enjoy

David @ VOLiTiAN
p.s. the mixdown dropped the bass parts out of some of the last sections of the song god knows what happened there lol

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[vovchik05]

Wow! Sounds great) Guitars are little bit fizzzy may be, but they are METAL ones. What did you use for guitar tracking?

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[VOLiTiAN]

Why thanks man 🙂

Well it’s a learning curve, guitars could still have a touch too much top end, it’s a bit of a mix and match with EQ’s, what did you mean by tracking? do you mean what preamps did we use?

David @ VOLiTiAN

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[Scott]

Yeah. I dig it. Nice writing.
I like your use of the reverb (or delay) with the guitars in this tune.
Thanks for letting us hear it!
Take care

Scott

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[VOLiTiAN]

Hi Scott, I often see your comments thanks for the feedback, which delay are you hearing on the guitars is it for the intro?

Anything overall on the mix that’s fatiguing the ol’ lobes?

Gonna put up some more tracks and developments of this mix so curious to know now what direction to turn 🙂

Regards

D.

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[Scott]

The first reverb (and / or delay) I’m referring to is @ (apprx) 01:38
It’s not a BIG part of the tune – it was just something that caught my ear the first time I listened to it.
As for fatiguing – the tune sounds really good – but there may be a little too much pumpin on the drums (IMHO).
But it still sounds kewl.
Take care

Scott

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-macOS Ventura Version 13.6
-Logic Pro 10.7.9 
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-Universal Audio Apollo 8 (UAD2 DUO) – max sample rate supported: 192
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[VOLiTiAN]

Ah i gotcha, yeah well actually that was just recorded left and right and swelling in on the volume pot on the gweetar.

so no delay apart from typical lead post-type delay.

As for the mix pumpin’ that’s one i’m struggling with, i’m trying to get in on the loudness game but it’s trying to get that initial signature mix before the master that’s really taking the time. I also seem to have a hellish 2/2.5k spike that i can’t seem to get rid of it’s more of an overtone/harmonic, any ideas how to remove harmonics by band?

Thanks again for the feedback Scott very help indeed 🙂

If you have the time check out our myspace and see what you think of this master compared to the one that’s up there see which one maybe works for ya, we’re finding that even with the best analyzers it’s still tough to get the mix solid on a greater number of systems.

Take it easy buddy

Regards

D.
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[vovchik05]

Yeah, i mean what gear did you use for guitar recording)

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[VOLiTiAN]

Ibanez 7620’s Sansamp PSA1, boss GX-700, and then voxengo pristine running a couple of recabinet impulses followed by some EQ and compression, pretty simple i think, what makes you ask?

Regards

D.
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[vovchik05]

It sounds really cool and in concept of genre) Many use to play through line 6 PODs but your guitars sounds like “MICED”
So this was the recabinet magic))) I use recabinet sometimes with send-return to make some life and air when using POD)))) am just mix impulse guitars a little with basic pod guitars that sounds lifeless) and it makes to kill fizzzenesss
Next time i want to buy redwirez impulses) everybody very happy with them)

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[Christian Derdul]

Wow that’s some great mixing/production. Very cool song with wild structure to it, I love the Katatonia-ish sound @ 2:03-2:13(Katatonia’s production on their latest is incredible-love that band). I really like that gnarly bass tone too. I would only say maybe it could be condensed a little bit.

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[Scott]

ORIGINAL: VOLiTiAN
I also seem to have a hellish 2/2.5k spike that i can’t seem to get rid of it’s more of an overtone/harmonic, any ideas how to remove harmonics by band?

First thing I would do is start sweeping with an exaggerated bell on the EQ.
Once you have pinned the frequency – go ahead and shape it up / down.
But that’s just what I would do to get started … there are some other things you can do after you’ve got the problem child identified.
Take care

Scott

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-macOS Ventura Version 13.6
-Logic Pro 10.7.9 
-64 GB Ram 
-Universal Audio Apollo 8 (UAD2 DUO) – max sample rate supported: 192
-typical buffer /  typical sample rate:  128 / 44.1
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[VOLiTiAN]

Hi Scott,

Actually I started doing that I found fab-filter pro Q seems to be great at just selecting a freq boosting it like a stupid 30db and moving it to where i could get an overtone that was quite frankly horrendous and then cutting it, the only prob I’m having is how to get the overall sound back up to fitting with anything after I’ve done that – ooo it’s a fun learning curve 🙂

@ The Now,

Thanks for the kind words I’ve started amping up the bass a touch more in the mix and just let that and the kicks fight it out, what did you mean by saying it could be condensed a bit?

Thanks again all, gonna put another track up today all being well, looking forward to seeing what you guys think 🙂

regards

David

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[Scott]

Looking forward to that new tune.
Keep ’em comin’!

Scott

-Mac Studio (2023)–  Apple M2 Max
-macOS Ventura Version 13.6
-Logic Pro 10.7.9 
-64 GB Ram 
-Universal Audio Apollo 8 (UAD2 DUO) – max sample rate supported: 192
-typical buffer /  typical sample rate:  128 / 44.1
-External drives:
*SanDisk  2TB USB 3.1 Gen 2 Type-A/Type-C Portable SSD  
*Glyph 3TB HD w/  USB-C/3.0/2.0 Compatibility
*OWC 2TB Aura P12 Pro NVME M.2 SSD housed in OWC Express 4-slot 4M2 M.2 NVME Thunderbolt 3 ports
-Midi Controllers:  M-Audio Keystation 88, Novation 61SL

[Christian Derdul]

I just mean shortening the arrangement by a minute or so might be beneficial.

Take care.

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