“Recollection” – new version using Superior Avatar

[batsbrew]

“Recollection” – new version

http://soundcloud.com/bats-brew/recollect-ver2

brand new drum track.
using Toontrack Superior Drummer, Avatar kit.
completely different feel than the first version..
with a more ‘rock’ drum groove, than the original funky thing.

‘from the ground up’ new mix-
this is a much more aggressive mix than the original.

i think i need to bring the drums up more in the mix, yes, no?

i played some fun tricks with a ‘room’ mic on the final solo, how do you think it translated?

a pic of the wave before i mastered it. it sounds WAY better than the mastered version………?!
but very quiet…. like U2’s ‘the joshua tree’ in terms of final level. i think the average RMS is about -24. LOL

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[Scott]

Overall I like the sound of the tune.

I don’t think the drums are too quite for me, personally. They may be a bit too roomy which pushes them back in the mix too far though…at least the kick and snare. I would open the Bleed edit window for the OH and any AMB channels and bring down the kick and snare a bit. This would bring lessen the roomy sound and make them more punchy.

Scott Sibley - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[batsbrew]

scott-
thanks for checking this one out.

and timely comments…..

‘too roomy’.
yes.

the ambient mics, are very powerful.
so i’ve gone in, and done what you suggested, i’ve cut out the bleed on the kick and snare….
at least enough, to make an audible difference.

i’ll tell you, the power of the combination of mics, bleed, and individual fx on the varying channels of the kit, is almost overwhelming.
but i dig it.
the control of the envelope for each drum kit…… yes.
i found a kick sound i loved, but it rang out too much…
i thought it was the room mics, but even turned off, it was too much.
then i discovered that envelope control, i brought the length of decay of the drum hit down (shorter) and voila.

at this point, i’ve got about 6 variations on the one ‘master’ kit i’m trying to build, with all kinds of experiments on varying amounts of eq, compression, gating,

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