Question about the ‘character’ of the Evil Drums SDX relative to other libraries

[jgro002]

Hi all,

I am currently working on a sludgy, heavy rock track (90bpm, accentuated quarter notes, guitars through a Peavey 5150 head into a marshall cab – you get the idea).

The Metal Foundry doesn’t sound quite right for this track (snare drums in particular are all attack with no sustain/decay, not right for this track)

Of the New York libraries, Avatar is the closest to what I’m after but it just sounds ‘too clean’ if you know what i mean.

Don’t misunderstand me, I think all the libraries sound AMAZING, but I am wondering if the fact that the Evil Drums SDX was recorded to tape might give it that ‘warmth’ and character that I feel I am missing from Avatar for this particular track. Or is that crazy talk?

If anyone can comment on the difference in sonic character between Evil Drums and Avatar (and the other libraries) I would really appreciate it.

Additionally, how do the room mics in Evil Drums sound (particularly on kits 4,5,6)? Some of my all-time favourite albums were recored at Sound City…

Cheers, Jeremy.

iMac 3.06 GHz 4 GB OSX 10.6.5, Focusrite Saffire 6 USB, Logic Pro 9.1.3, Lacie D2 Quadra

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[Platinum Samples]

There are a few reviews on the VDrums forum: http://www.vdrums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=60487

Also: http://www.gearslutz.com/board/5415753-post105.html

Cheers,

Rail

Professionally Recorded Multitrack Drum Samples
http://tinyurl.com/26k2xjo
www.platinumsamples.com

[jgro002]

Cheers for the response Rail. I’ll check out the links.

Cheers, Jeremy.

iMac 3.06 GHz 4 GB OSX 10.6.5, Focusrite Saffire 6 USB, Logic Pro 9.1.3, Lacie D2 Quadra

[Whitten]

To my ears Evil Drums sounds more gritty than Avatar, a little less obviously processed and (dodgy description alert) more organic.

[jgro002]

Thanks for your reply.

It’s funny that you used ‘organic’ because that’s one of those hard to define terms, but it is a word I would use to describe what I’m looking for for this particular project. Kinda like I’d say the Custom & Vintage samples sound more organic than Avatar (those are by far my favorite and most used samples, just not of use for this particular project)

It’s also nice to hear you say that the Evil Drums samples sound a little less obviously processed, because that would be my major complaint with the New York libraries – they sound amazing, just a little too ‘produced’ for much of my music. I like things to sound a little ‘dirtier’.

I thought about trying a plug-in like PSP Vintage Warmer on the drum bus to warm them up but it’d be nice to just get the right samples for the job to begin with.

It’s nice to have so many options now. Keep it up Toontrack!

Cheers, Jeremy.

iMac 3.06 GHz 4 GB OSX 10.6.5, Focusrite Saffire 6 USB, Logic Pro 9.1.3, Lacie D2 Quadra

[Whitten]

To my ears Evil Drums is a rockier version of C&V, obviously applicable to the current music sound and offering two different room sounds (whereas C&V is pretty dry).
I know Baressi used eq and worked in the same way he does when on an actual tracking session, but the drums just sound more natural than Avatar to me.

[jgro002]

Thanks for that.

Yeah I love the sound of C&V and, contrary to what a lot of people seem to feel, I actually love how dry it is too. It makes it perfect for some things; not right for other projects.

If Evil Drums is a rockier version of that I’ll definitely have to pick it up. Incidentally, Joe Baressi has been involved with some of my favorite albums, particularly the more recent Bad Religion records, so I guess it’s sort of a no-brainer for me.

Thanks again for taking the time to reply.

Cheers,
Jeremy.

iMac 3.06 GHz 4 GB OSX 10.6.5, Focusrite Saffire 6 USB, Logic Pro 9.1.3, Lacie D2 Quadra

[David Berry]

Good info. I love C&V and the less processed sounds. Also love DFH1, but not the slow loading times 🙁 Anywho.. just ordered Evil Drums SDX, so looking forward to testing driving the more ‘rockier version of C&V’ 🙂 I jumped on the sweetwater %50 off sale.

[Mark Williams]

Yeah, today is the last day for that sale, I believe.
Run, don’t walk, folks. This is a great expansion pack.

EDIT: See Rail’s post below. The sale runs through March 15. My bad. (thanks, Rail!)

MBP 2.4 GHz | 4GB RAM | OSX 10.6.8 Logic Pro 9.1.5 | Metric Halo LIO-8/4P | Apogee ONE SD 2.3.0 | EZP 1.1.0 | Drumtracker 1.0.2

[Platinum Samples]

The Sweetwater sale is through March 15th

Thanks,

Rail

Professionally Recorded Multitrack Drum Samples
http://tinyurl.com/26k2xjo
www.platinumsamples.com

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