SD3 Hi Hat Pedal CC4 (transitions sound) ? werid noises

[mariannekhos3]

is there a Way to turn of the the Strange sound like a (Phaser) when you move the cc4 ) openness of the Hi Hats in
SD3 ? it makes weird noises… SD2 and EZ drummer too make those noises,
I think it is a way to model the sound of the real Hi Hats.. BUT it sounds very Weird.. like not real..
or .. I don’t know strange.. I thought you guys were going to come out with better “algorithms” for the Hi Hat in SD3..
but it stills makes those Weird noises.. is there a way to Turn OFF that ? ..

on a V drum here.

Thanks.

Topic

[John]

Hi,

could you please record what you are experiencing? It does not sound normal at all.
To be able to understand what is going on, it would be best with a sound file where it can be heard and the Project file you are using while producing this sound.

BR,
John

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[mariannekhos3]

yes.. shure I will make that recording and sharing.. it.. Yes.. it is the “Hi-Hat Pedal” CC4…
when you move it.. from let’s say.. open4 to open3.. you hear..like a a bad programing..
transition.. it has been in Toontrack always.. in all your products..
I guess that if you are a drummer you could hear it.. if not.. you would not notice it..

You can Hear Clearly when Open0 end and Open1 Stars.. on the Hi hat..
I don’t Why You have not Make a (improvement) to that..
With All the Technology and Advances we have today.. It will be Possible to make..
a Better Transition between The Hi Hat Openness.. to (Smooth those X-Fades)..
when a Group starts and another Ends–this Transition.. sort of like a X-Fade in (kontakt)
between Samples Groups.. Tight, Close, Open0, etc..

Not even Fxpansion BFD3 has a smooth Transition.. on the HH, in fact.. not one has..
not even All Drums from all Companies that has released Drums for Kontakt has achieved this.
only the hi hats would need that more than snare.. or.. raid etc. specially the HH.

Not Yet.

[John]

Hi,

as I mentioned above, I would like to hear an example of what you mean. There should be no weird noises or artifacts when the HH transmutes.

BR,
John

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[mariannekhos3]

here is the mp3 recording..
I think.. you guys are trying to emulate the Sound of The Real Hi hat with only 7 or 8 Layers .. but it makes very strange noises..
not only in SD3 library but almost in every Library even EZX libraries, I think with All the Technology Advances we have in 2017
with programming Samples and Audio, maybe only for the Hi hats you guys have to Find a Better “Solution” for the X-Fades
between the Hi Hats Layers and openness, for example.. :
“redmatica keymap pro 2” Has some great amazing emulations for creating or emulate the snare hits from only a few samples…
and “crossfading” etc.. very advanced ideas there … so.. maybe for the Hi Hats.. you guys have to come out with Better Ideas..
I think that even if you record 20 Layers of openness with bad “X-fades” programming it is not going to help ..
maybe as I said before.. a combination of real samples.. and using those to create .. more.. layers.. all with the software.. not only with samples..

here’s the Link for those sort Phase noises when Crossing the Point of Open 3 to Open2.. etc.. and so on.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SButVwbQh6hMbYKnhBQObGOnXuV9fPRc/view

[John]

OK,

I will try not to sound too insulting but it is very hard for me to understand how you can throw out that much critique in your posts (not only in this thread) when you are clearly not using the products correctly? If that sound and behaviour was what all Toontrack plugins and libraries offered, there wouldn’t be any business.
BTW, your account does not have a single Toontrack product registered, which is sad because otherwise I would gladly help you get sorted and use Toontrack products correctly over at the registered users Help section. But you have to have them registered to get access.

If you actually do own Toontrack products and have them registered to another account, I strongly suggest you start using that account or merge them into one by contacting Toontrack Support directly via the FAQ.
https://www.toontrack.com/faq/my-issue-is-not-covered-in-this-faq-what-next/
Click ‘Contact Support’.

BR,
John

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[mariannekhos3]

Well John.. you can see it as “Negative” I see it as “Fixing” and “Improving” the product, obviously I made that .mp3 ..
to chow you only those sounds.. those specific Sounds..¡ haha.. not the Hits…. of the hi hats.. the Transitions.. and X-Fades
between the “openness” of the Hi Hats.. and there is a LOT of Room for improvement there. .. if you can’t understand that well..
there will be no mutual “Understanding” of What I am talking about.

Regards of the products I have from your company I had buyed a lot of libraries But I created this account to get in touch with the support theme,… and To “point” where I can clearly hear there’s Room for Innovation and improvement.. from SD3 .. if you mix.. Feelings here..
you are not going anywhere.. SD3 is a great Product. all sounds amazing.. “BUT” .. i am saying the True here.. the Hi Hats need more
Innovation and improvement., anyway..

Why Should I come hear to Toontrack forum to talk about all that is Working Perfectly with SD3 ????? .. think.
this forum is for customers support.. and What I as a Customer think about the Hi Hats..

I find you Very immature on that .. .. if you only want to hear Claps from customers.. well.. THINK like APPLE. utopia.
use logic.. and take this .. as a customer “Thinking” for “improvement” .. don’t take it personally. but you did. anyway.

BR.
mariannekhos

[Author]

Replies