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I could pick your often repeated claims apart line by line, but instead……

ORIGINAL: rgarber

IMO that this has been a good thread for helping some of us become better acquainted with EZ Keys, might we continue along that vein

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ORIGINAL: tombuur
.It is possible my headline “Not a Band in a Box” can be misleading.

LOL. No kidding.

Anyway, on with getting better acquainted.

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For the record I didn’t suggest it was ‘unacceptable’, I said it was a shame. It was a shame his review stuck out amongst a bunch of 4 and 5 star reviews, simply because EZkeys is not BIAB.

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ORIGINAL: juicy

Don’t you think its fair to be compared to existing types of software good or bad , being a 2012 product you would hope it would be heaps better. Time will tell .

Not at all fair, unless the product is advertised as a competing product.
For example, is BIAB a virtual piano instrument?
It’s like comparing Superior to Maschine. You could give Superior 2 stars for not coming with a hardware sequencer box, and not including a couple of gigs of hip-hop and techno samples.
This is the core of my issue with Tombur.
EZkeys didn’t turn out to be BIAB, so he gave it a bad rating instead of just reviewing it for what IT IS

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Hmm, shame Tombur gave it a two star review at T&S because it isn’t ‘BIAB’.

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Make sure you have two complete EZX’s. One is the full mic set up, the second is the four mic set up.

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You can make your own folder in the EZkeys library can’t you, and import midi to that?

(I read it somewhere, haven’t tried it myself).

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You are right Juicy, but just to add a difference in velocity values can change the sound performance of Superior and EZdrummer.
So if LOTE is all slamming 127’s and Metal Machine is not, you’ll feel there is a different sound.
Easily fixed with a change of velocity edit, but simple things like that can sometimes freak people out.

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Of course, but some here are already predicting a price and complaining.
Fact is, a midi library expansion would likely be around $35, based on other Toon products.
If an organ or electric piano had been extensively multi-sampled, the $80 price guessed at by Skiltrip could be well justified.

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I’m seeing black midi info on my blocks in EZkeys as a demo.
I’m on an iMac using the latest version of Logic.
No idea why you aren’t seeing them as I’m not a tech head, but I can report it working well here.

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But if you are talking about expanding the library, Toon midi libraries are 25euro, about $33!

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The simple solution is to drag all your clips into a DAW, and do the arrangement there. Isn’t that what everybody is doing with EZdrummer and Superior?

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Or maybe some of these features don’t appeal to others as much as you?
This product was extensively beta tested by a panel of Toontrack customers.
I totally get the feedback that EZkeys could have additions, I just think it’s wrong to imply the current version is flawed.
It’s a small footprint virtual piano instrument with a midi library – just like EZdrummer.

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Have you tried dragging one of the supplied midi grooves from your library into a midi track in PT10?

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ORIGINAL: tombuur
So to me EZK is still mainly a loop arranger

It isn’t. It’s a virtual piano instrument with a midi library. They just expanded the midi library concept beyond how it was implemented in EZdrummer and Superior.

Having said that, I get that you are frustrated and have made suggestions Toontrack could implement, and they sound like reasonable suggestions.

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