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  • spyder
    Participant

    Update: So after hitting dead end after dead end and exhausting what little I knew about midi channel/note mapping using the Korg Editor and the Latin Percussion software and other support documents, etc. And not getting any feedback that would solve my configuration problem, as I experimented(explained above) over several days here on the forum on a subject I found, at least a little bit, interesting. I gave up…

    But not really. What I decided to do and have uploaded is the Basic nanoPAD2 to Latin Percussion pad assignments as I found going thru every pad(16) and scene(4). Overall a lot of Conga and Cajon. MIssing from the list are the Shekere, Caxixi and Conga 2. So this final result is just plugging the nanoPAD in, enabling it and tapping the pads one by one. If anyone has gotten a different result, I’d really like to know. (Tech Support might want to file this away for future reference, just a suggestion)

    Ciao’

    PS- Missing from this entire Latin Percussion set of instruments is CLAVES
    Why or how Toontrack forgot to record and add these is beyond me, it truly boggles my mind.
    These two sticks literally define this type and style of music and the patterns played.
    If anyone reads this please, please, please record a pair and put then in the next update~!

    spyder
    Participant

    @Pete Cleary said:

    I’ve been following this thread and have been thinking about getting the Korg nanoPad2. I’m not so sure about it since it looks to be a battle to get it right. I’d be using it with EZDrummer 2. I don’t know where to begin to look to set up the pad mappings correctly. There are a lot of different drum kits available to use. Would I need to do this pad mapping for each drum kit?

    Thanks for following the thread Pete,

    What I’m doing is trying something ‘a little different’.

    I using the straight ahead EZ Drummer 2 Yamaha 9000 kit that comes ‘standard’ (with the Gretch and DW kits) in the basic installation to lay down a wide variety of drum tracks just to make some basic home recordings and that’s fine, it works GREAT for that type of situation. There’s enough of those samples(ballad, halftime, etc) to satisfy my situation for a long, long time. I don’t use any PAD mapping, I just select a style, tempo, intros, add fills, etc, and let it rip. (Recording into Ableton Live).

    And I also added the Latin Percussion EZX Expansion pack. And for that, there are a lot of varieties there too. BUT when I’d like to add JUST my own tambourine, cymbals, shakers, etc, I need a PAD, not a Mouse Click, to trigger those with just my finger, old school drum machine style. See where I’m going here? In other words, across the top 8 pads of the nanoPAD, have those arranged left to right. Shaker, Tambourine, Bells, Cowbell, Chimes, Vibraslap, Woodblock, and Triangle and so on…

    At this point we’re still working on how to get that done. And Tech Support is giving some valuable feedback as we work the issue since we’ve not run out of ideas yet…

    Hope this helps explain what’s going on here at my end.

    Ciao’

    spyder
    Participant

    More settings information:

    Tambourine: Scene 1, Pad 1.

    Latin Percussion Detailed View:

    Articulations—>Key
    Open Hit C0—-Middle ‘C’ on the EZX LP Keyboard Layout Diagram
    Midi In C#1

    Articulations—>Note
    Open Hit 24—-Middle ‘C” on the EZX LP Keyboard Layout Diagram
    Midi In 37

    We selected ‘C1′ in the Korg Editor with negative result. We also tried both ’24’ & ’37’ under the “Control’ and “Program Change’ drop downs with negative results.
    We also tried using the attached Touch Scale(with the TS button enabled) diagram from Korg to map C2/36 to C6/84, ascending and descending with negative results.

    So I’m thinking, I can’t be the FIRST person to try to map a simple Tambourine to Scene 1, Pad 1 on a Korg nanoPAD? If I can get that one to work, we’ll be able to do all the other selected instruments one by one and customize the entire percussion set.

    Thanks for the support~!

    spyder
    Participant

    Reply to myself:

    Korg Editor v1.7.0.11; EZ Drummer 2.1.1 64 Bit. with Latin Percussion pack.

    ***Settings–>, Midi Events–>MIDI Program Change–>Checked ‘Allow MIDI Program Change’, Click ‘OK’. Closed and Reopened.

    Attached is a screen shot of both the Editor and the LP GUI. As you can see, I have selected an ‘Empty Set’, opened the Tambourine, the ‘key=C0’; ‘note=24′(as downloaded and printed out for my reference, the keyboard layout) assigned to PAD #1, scene #1. Now when I tap that PAD, the Tambourine doesn’t sound, the UDU does. You can visually see ‘the trigger'(as you press the pad) on the UDU. So I know the nanoPAD is passing the commands to the application. I should be able to simply assign one PAD to one Drum, using either the “key” or ‘note’ setting since they are one in the same.

    Do I have a setting wrong somewhere?

    Should I put this issue in other category in the Forum to get a faster response?

    Thanks for the support.

    spyder
    Participant

    Reply to myself:

    I just found this on the Korg Site:

    nanoPAD/Template Data for Toontrack EZX LATIN PERCUSSION

    http://www.korg.com/us/support/download/software/1/253/1367/

    spyder
    Participant

    Thank you very much for the quick response Olof~!

    I’ve gone back and corrected #1 and printed out the MIDI Layout chart and the nanoPAD Editor manual.

    The nanoPAD has four(4) scenes of sixteen(16 pads) each meaning the maximum assignments to the Latin Percussion Drums would be Sixty-Four(64), yes?

    I’ve searched for any step by step documented process for this and haven’t found anything at all. But if I can figure out how to do one, then I’ll be able to do all the others. I’ve also posted on the Korg Forum, but no response at this time. Could it be that I’m the only one that has tried to MAP Latin Percussion instruments to a nanoPAD? Which I find very unlikely but possible, yes?

    We will continue the experiment and update this thread as we try to work this configuration.

    Ciao’

    spyder
    Participant

    I just got the Korg nanoPad2 for $60 from Sweetwater for your exact reason. Even though I properly downloaded, before install, the driver, I couldn’t get any sound out of the EZ Drummer application. (thinking this was all ‘plug and play’)

    #1) Under the ‘Menu’ drop down(upper right corner) I selected ‘Settings’, then the ‘E-Drums’ tab, then Midi Mapping from ‘None’ to ‘Other’.

    #2) Go to Settings(between File and Help)(upper left corner) , select ‘Audio/Midi Setup, then “MIDI Device’. You should see your nanoPad listed there, but you MUST check the box to enable it, by default it’s UNCHECKED. Closed and reopened EZ and now I get drum sounds(Latin Percussion in my case).

    My next challenge is to properly ‘MAP’ the touch pads to all the percussion instruments, in order of use, from left to right on the touch pads. There are sixteen(16) pads so I will need to MAP the most used(Congas, Bongos, Cymbals) to the least used(shakers, bells, etc) with Scene 1 being the most used, then tap the Scene 2 button for the least used so I can use all the percussion instruments in the Latin Percussion add on.

    If anyone reading this has done this, it would be helpful to know how it’s done in a simply, easy procedure. I’ve done a search on the topic here, but didn’t find anything. But if you have a link to the process, that would be great.

    Thanks~!

    spyder
    Participant

    Update to my post. I just saw and hear the Korg nanoPAD2 being used with EZ Drummer on youtube. It looks like the EXACT product I can use. It’s on order right now.

    spyder
    Participant

    To reply to my own post. I just saw the Korg nanoPAD2 used with EZ Drummer 2 on youtube. It’s exactly what I was looking for to trigger all the Latin Percussion samples. It’s now on order and will update when I get it and do the installation and test it out.

    spyder
    Participant

    Thank you for the very quick response Damian.

    I’ve looked at many videos and what I’m hearing is ‘Side Stick'(you are correct) with Clave and/or Cowbells, then the occasional ‘Fill’ and Cymbal Crash as the song progresses.

    I’m not sure if you’re the right person to address this next question to but here goes.

    What I’d like to do is to use a simple ‘Pad Device’ that I can, literally, put on my recording desk, assign the samples by Pad number and then tap out and record my specific latin percussion drums arrangement.

    I know under ‘settings’ there’s an ‘E Drums’ section, but I’m thinking that would be for a ‘Full Set’ of Electronic Drums, though there is in the drop down menu a selection for ‘Other’ The products I’m looking at are: Korg nanoPAD2, Akai LPD8, Arturua Beatstep. would any of these be ‘Other’?

    If there’s a reference document you can refer me to or a previous answer here in the forum please link me to those.

    Thanks in advance,
    Dennis Logan
    Round Rock, Texas

    spyder
    Participant

    Thank you for the quick response.

    I just did a quick view and Drum Kit from Hell, Hip-Hop, Indie Folk and Jazz expansion packs all have some brand of 22″ ride cymbals. However, I believe the Basic EZ Drummer 2 package should include AT LEAST one(1) 22″ ride sample, in my opinion, without having to buy an expansion pack, since these samples are already created.

    Just a suggestion.

    spyder
    Participant

    <img src="http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag359/wefixflats/ezdrummerscreen_zpslptuydhn.jpg” alt=”http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag359/wefixflats/ezdrummerscreen_zpslptuydhn.jpg” />

    This is what is displayed after launching EZ Drummer Standalone, demo version v2.1.1

    I can understand this size screen when running as a ‘plug in’, but as a Standalone, it really needs to be Full Screen(or adjustable)for me.

    I apologize for the duplicate pictures, not sure what happened there.

    spyder
    Participant

    The Toontrack application and resolution are fine. I would just like to be able to ‘resize’ it. Usually you can just drag the corners and/or sides. with your cursor of a window(in Windows 7 in my case) and expand it from the preset launch size. And in my case, while I get up to speed(learning the features and control buttons), have the entire EZ Drummer application be, literally, ‘Full Screen’ on my 24″ monitor. Is there an ‘parameter’ I can temporary edit to incrementally increase the size of the window or am I just missing something obvious? Thanks for the reply.

    spyder
    Participant

    @StarkeysFeat said:

    I’m also having screen size issues, but with EZDrummer 2 32 bit. Under Win 7 on a netbook the screen size cuts off the lower portion of the timeline window, thus I can’t access the transport buttons – very frustrating & useless as it is. I assumed this was a limitation of the EZDrummer Demo, so when it expired I deleted it & purchased the software, only to find that the full licensed product has the same screen size issue. Neither solution above worked. Please – address this. Frown

    Wow, I’m going to run into the same problem then. I’m presently running the 64bit demo and would ‘probably’ purchase the full product but after reading this, that’s going to be doubtful. And after reading that neither/none of the published solutions work it this time, the company REALLY needs to step up and update the screen sizing issue. And enduser should be able to size the application for whatever size screen they have in use. The fact that the company hasn’t fixed this issue is very disappointing. Cry

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