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[Scott Eshleman]

@mrdrums said:
Drums is different, because it’s just rhythm, and you can edit fills and beats to precisely fit your song. With Piano, you are stuck with what is programmed. lets say you
have a riff playing on the guitar, and you would like the piano to do the same thing….Sorry Charlie, it wont, it will play a chord.
Cabice?

Oh, I think that I understand. You want EZKeys to play cover songs and to somehow(?) inherently know how to play the song.
It’s a virtual instrument just like EZDrummer. It will play any MIDI that you feed to it…step programmed, recorded or imported.
If you want the piano to play the same riff as the guitar, it can do that. You have only to give it the MIDI to do so.

Your rationale about the use and editing of MIDI drum grooves can just as easily be applied to the piano parts.
You are by no means “stuck with what is programmed“. It won’t play a chord unless programmed to play a chord.
It can and will play single note riffs, double-stops, octaves, sixths, etc. Legato, staccato, etc.
It’s only limitations are those imposed natively by the instrument sampled. (and some of those limitations can be ‘overridden’ by modern technologies)

If you want it to play Andrew Lloyd Webber or The Beatles, program them, step record them or find the MIDI for them.
I think that Toontrack will readily admit that (currently) their EZKeys MIDI pack libraries do not include MIDI for any specific songs
(unlike the EZDrummer MetalHeads expansion with 12 Meshuggah songs in MIDI format, performed by Tomas Haake).

I also think that once you understand the product for the compositional features and gorgeous sounds it offers, you’ll come to appreciate it for what it does.

[Scott Eshleman]

the “Library” column in the browser, both in the Filter section and the Results area

[Scott Eshleman]

I agree whole-heartedly as well. I love EZKeys and do not understand the OP’s unmet expectations.

I never downloaded the EZKeys demo so I’ve not experienced whatever the OP feels was wrongly misrepresented to him.
I never saw anything in the Toontrack description of the product, the videos or sample audio that would suggest that EZKeys
was anything more than a harmonic songwriting composition tool.
And considering the editing enabled by its interface, it’s an amazingly EZ tool at that.

And of course, it is also an awesome sounding Virtual Instrument!!
So the OP can play/record melodies, harmonies & FULL solo keyboard concertos with it – to the full extent of any virtual instrument.

[Scott Eshleman]

A cool new feature of EZDrummer2 is found on the [SEARCH] tab called, “Show Web Shop MIDI”.
This will allow you to preview in full MIDI packs that you haven’t purchased and they can be included in your “Tap2Find” searches for relevance to your project(s).

Personally, if a particular MIDI pack interests me, and it is available as part of an EZX, I’ll buy the EZX.
When they’re on sale, an EZX sound library only costs $10-20 more than its associated MIDI pack.
IMHO, some of the MIDI styles really shine best when played on their partnered kit(s); i.e. the Indie Folk EZX or The Blues EZX.
Other MIDI packs are only truly completed and are transformed when played on their partnered kit(s); i.e., the Latin Percussion EZX.
but that’s just me….your methodology will work as well.

[Scott Eshleman]

Thank you both. Based on your replies (and the layering described), I’m going to add the ROCK! EZX to my EZD/SD2 palette. In fact, I’m quite anxious to give it a workout!! Please forgive my confusion. It’s just that so many of the EZX & SDX new release announcements always seemed to emphasize “all new recordings” whereas this one kept referencing “selections from the near infinite Toontrack sound vaults, featuring rare and vintage drums recorded over the past decade in renowned studios like New York’s Allaire Studios, Blackbird Studios in Nashville and 2 Khz Studios in London“. Thanks again.

[Scott Eshleman]

USB cable length, maybe?

[Scott Eshleman]

yeah!!!!

[Scott Eshleman]

Please also contact AudioDeluxe for issues with license codes purchased & received from them.
I had a similar discrepancy with a license received from AudioDeluxe
(with whom I have since continued to buy Toontrack products……often).
Unfortunately, you and I as license recipients are unaware of the delivery error
until registering the code in our Toontrack account.

Once I reported the issue to AudioDeluxe, they promptly sent me the appropriate license code.
Difference in my case was that I already owned the product for which I had received and registered the wrong license code
and no further correction to my Toontrack account was necessary.

I sense action from both AudioDeluxe and Toontrack will be necessary to provide the license code for the product you purchased
and remove the product that you didn’t purchase from your Toontrack account.

[Scott Eshleman]

Personally, I’d like to be able to sort & group all of the various MIDI grooves by BPM regardless of style or product line (EZX, SDX).

[Scott Eshleman]

ORIGINAL: Veech

So S4 = straight 4/4 and S4W = swing 4/4? Good info, thanks!

Would love to see a key that includes all of this kind of info.

I would love to see a key that includes all of this kind of info, too.

[Scott Eshleman]

ORIGINAL: wagzisnotadrummer

I thought responded to this after you posted this question. I guess it didn’t go through. There isn’t any sort of MIDI performance library with Trilian.

I wouldn’t mind an EZ Bass plugin with upright bass, a Fender P-bass, a McCartney-esque Hofner Viola Bass, and a hollowbody with flatwounds. Preferably, sampled with mic’d amp(Ampeg BR15?) and D.I. perspectives with round robins, several velocities, and a picked or fingered tool option. Include Bass MIDI performance packs for bluegrass, soul, country, rock, and folk…and I won’t be able to give Toontrack my money fast enough.

Yes. Thank you. You did respond to my question in another thread
(http://www.toontrack.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=128798 post #5) where you had also posted the same comments that you posted here prompting my questions.

I was sure which thread that you might have been monitoring. Thanks again.
You saved me the disappointment & cost of purchasing Trillian.
…but I will happily buy a Toontrack EZbass module.
They really seem to know how to put together a quality product and importantly,
how to support & supplement it.

esh.

[Scott Eshleman]

ORIGINAL: wagzisnotadrummer
I also cast my vote for EZ Bass, but really I don’t want the samples. I already have Spectrasonics Trilian. What I’d like is actually a library of common patterns, walks, and runs/fills played by a real bass player and categorized by style in the MIDI format. For me, the samples part is already more than covered…

Interesting & timely. I have been exhaustively researching Spectrasonics Trillian.
I love the samples and videos showcasing it being played but I could not find any mention
whether there was any MIDI included with the product – only a mention of an Arpeggiator.

Wagz, Can I assume from your post/request that Trillian does NOT include any MIDI?

esh.

[Scott Eshleman]

ORIGINAL: wagzisnotadrummer
I also cast my vote for EZ Bass, but really I don’t want the samples. I already have Spectrasonics Trilian. What I’d like is actually a library of common patterns, walks, and runs/fills played by a real bass player and categorized by style in the MIDI format. For me, the samples part is already more than covered…

Interesting & timely. I have been exhaustively researching Spectrasonics Trillian.
I love the samples and videos showcasing it being played but I could not find any mention
whether there was any MIDI included with the product – only a mention of an Arpeggiator.

Wagz, Can I assume from your post/request that Trillian does NOT include any MIDI?

esh.

[Scott Eshleman]

Absolutely!!!!

[Scott Eshleman]

Yes!!! cast my vote for EZ Bass!!!
I play guitar but am not confident in my bass playing or tone.
I have bought and use EZDrummer, EZKeys and SuperiorDrummer.
I am a huge Toontrack fan and own many of the EZX’s and SDX’s.

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