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[PietjePuk100]

trevah_1 wrote:

I can’t seem to route any SD3 sounds to the Direct outs on the Roland TD50. I can route SD3 sounds to the mains but can’t figure outlaw to route individual instruments to Direct outs. Any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks

Trev

Do you mean the TD50 or the TD50x?

D1ondbeat mentioned that the Loopback function is a part of the TD50x. Loopback is not a part of the TD50 (as the word isn’t even in the TD50 manual).

Reply To: Route sd3 to Roland TD-50 version: 3.3.2
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[PietjePuk100]

Hi boydgrossi,

Don’t know much about the multiband compressors. However, the ring that you’re experiencing is something you want to address for the entire song and therefore, an EQ seems to be a viable option. Dynamic EQ and (apparently) multiband compressors are used for different purposes (as far as Google could tell me).

Here is a nice article that explains the usage of Dynamic EQ, Multiband compressors & Adaptive EQ: https://www.sonible.com/blog/multiband-compressor-adaptive-dynamic-eq/

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[PietjePuk100]

Boyd Gross II wrote:

Well, I looked again and noticed that on the mixer in SD3, around 70 or so, there was a massive peak that just lingered. I put a notch there with a fairly narrow Q to keep the rumble down. It seems to help, but I am sure there is a better way.

I looked at my progressive foundry but couldn’t find the preset you mentioned (Rock Brass, right?). Anyways, I’m far from an expert but using the EQ to get this addressed in the first place would be my way to do it.

You said you had a transient in place. Have you tried to reduce the sustain with that a bit more?

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[PietjePuk100]

Not sure if the envelope is gonna solve your challenge. It’s just gonna kill off the sound sooner if you lower the number of ms.

Have you tried to put an eq on it and get rid of the frequencies that cause the ringing?

Btw, which tom are you talking about and are you using it in a preset or is it a vanilla mixer setting?

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[PietjePuk100]

Have you considered to add a second hi-hat to the SD3 drum kit. Only add the closed articulation for that hi-hat and make it match the midi value of a rim of your high tom. This way you can have both the open hi-hat coming from your hi-hat and the closed version coming of the rim of your tom.

Be aware that you can only add assign a specific midi value once. So use a hi-hat articulation that is currently not in use on your hi-hat.

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[PietjePuk100]

 

Take a look in this thread: https://www.toontrack.com/forums/topic/sd-3-1-2-customvintage-sdx-td50-crash-when-using-specific-presets/

I’ve posted a workaround in there.

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[PietjePuk100]

Hi Henrik,

I gave this a spin last night. I added a second hihat to a kit in SD3 and mapped that to a cymbal. Changed the edge of the cymbal to correspond to the edge of a hihat articulation and mapped the bow to map the articulation of the bow of hat.

This way I can have a second hihat that works on a cymbal or pad but will not have it to correspond to the foot controller of the main hats. I guess it is the second best thing.

I’ll settle for that I guess. Thanks for your support.

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[PietjePuk100]

Hi Henrik,

So by adding a stack on the main hats will that follow the CC value of the main hats?
That sounds great, but I still have one pair of hats to hit, right?

Using alternate midi values will work fine but drum modules are not capable (not to my knowledge) to send multiple CC values as there is just one hi hat controller. Ideally the second hihat would leverage the control values of the maiin hats so that pedal movement comes from there but uses different midi because it is using a different pad with the sticks.

I can’t give it a spin right now as I’m away from the kit for two weeks.

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[PietjePuk100]

I’ve trying to assign the cc value of my hi hat to a second pair of hats but this immediately removes the cc value of my main hats.

Is there no workaround for this?

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[PietjePuk100]

I’m not an owner of Metal Machinery but a couple of other SD2 packs (Rock Warehouse / Progressive & Metal Foundry) and all of them work on SD3. You might just not have all the microphone channels available to you. The grooves from these packs can be used in the groove selector without any problem.

I don’t see why this wouldn’t work for Metal Machinery but perhaps someone who ones this SDX can chime in for 100% certainty

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[PietjePuk100]

I believe that both Roland and the Yamaha will be fine. The only thing that the TD50 has over the others is the digital snare & ride. Although you could also argue against this.

If you don’t care for the digital snare & ride I’d say go for the TD30KV as Roland always triggers great (I am biased btw ). I can’t say anything appropriate about the Yamaha kits as I haven’t played those other than in a music store.

The Pearl Mimic Pro is just a module (and not a kit) that contains the Steven Slate Drums 5 on board and triggers VST sounds directly from the modules. Sounds great and if used for playing live you don’t have to drag a laptop around. Check out the VDrums forum on some preview sounds for the upcoming Mimic Pro update.

I never went for the DIY option but that is because of me

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[PietjePuk100]

I believe I have found the solution for this issue.

Grand Luxe – Cold –> the third rack tom is not used but there appears to be a stacked instrument to be routed to the appropriate busses. Remove the routing of the stacked instruments and it doesn’t happen anymore
Hanne – I Don’t Feel a Thing –> the second & third tom have the same issue as described above. Also for the stacked snare only the stacked user instruments should be selected for the ambience busses. When I removed the other routings SD3 no longer crashed.
Hanne – Talk of the Town –> Similar issue with the snare as described above.

I have attached the User Presets that I have saved for comparison (had to zip them because of “File extension error”).

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[PietjePuk100]

Hi Olof,

I’m able to load the SD2 core SDX into SD3 and am able to play on the kit without being kicked out.
Is there a particular preset I should check that matches the drums from the Custom&Vintage?

Thanks,

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[PietjePuk100]

Hi Olaf,

I’m running the latest version (3.1.2) which is also mentioned in the ToonTrack product manager.

I do have the following SDXs installed and ready for use:
– SD2 Core (1.5.0)
– Vintage&Classics (1.5.0)
– SD3 Basic Library (1.1.2)
– SD3 Room Library (1.0.0)
– SD3 Additional Bleed (1.0.0)
– Metal Foundry (1.5.0)
– Progressive Foundry (1.5.0)
– Rock Foundry (1.0.2)
– Rock Warehouse (1.5.0)

So even when having the SD2 core present it doesn’t get around the preset issues, so the challenge mentioned in the post you referred to is not relevant in my situation.

Please let me know if there is anything more specific you need me to check.

Thanks in advance,

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[PietjePuk100]

I just installed it on a second Mac Book and am experiencing the exact same behaviour on the mentioned presets: “SD3 quit unexpectedly”.

Anyone else experienced this with these presets?

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