[Muellercraft]

Getting the signal from the SPD to your computer shouldn’t be a problem.  You could try the MIDI through approach Jack mentioned, or you could connect the SPD directly to your computer using another USB or Thunderbolt port.  I’m pretty sure you could also bring up two iterations of SD3 in your DAW and assign the SPD to a second iteration.  Getting one iteration of SD3 to recognize input from both the TD17 and an SPD as signals to control one large kit — I would think it can be done, but probably means a lot of manual programming of MIDI to get each pad matched to the instrument you want.

Muellercraft

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[Muellercraft]

I’m still having difficulty visualizing the issue for you.  When you say ‘merge’ are you talking about two segments of MIDI joined together tail to head?  Or two segments of MIDI overlapping each other and both making sounds?  Are you using the groove tab or the drum tab in SD3?  Is the problem occurring in the SD3 workspace or in Logic’s workspace?

It is possible in both SD and Logic to slide MIDI segments together, overlap them or keep them apart.

 

Reply To: Track Song Parts (Patterns) Merging Randomly? version: 3.4.2
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Muellercraft

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[Muellercraft]

In what context are you experiencing ‘song parts merging on their own.’  Are you talking about constructing a drum kit track within SD or within a DAW track?  Are you using grooves from the SD browser?

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Muellercraft

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[Muellercraft]

You probably don’t need any expansions at all.  The core library has plenty of kits that should meet the need.  Which dry kit you prefer will be highly personal.  For most new projects I generally start with a Yamaha kit.

 

 

Reply To: Need SDX Recommendation – Sound of a Live Drummer for Live Backing Tracks version: 3.4.2
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Muellercraft

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[Muellercraft]

You should be able to adjust the pad midi sensitivity for each articulation of each instrument in the ‘drum’ tab.  You could also try a different hi-hat in SD.  After hits are recorded you can adjust one or all of them in the ‘tracker’ tab.

Alternatively, you can adjust them in your DAW, but that can be laborious.

 

Reply To: Superior Drummer 3 (Yamaha Core kit) – increase the levels for open hi-hat? version: 3.4.0
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[Muellercraft]

My favorites are in user presets.  Generally I take one of the stock kits that sounds pretty close to what I want, tweak it and save it.

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[Muellercraft]

Why are you listening through the Roland module?  You should be listening to SD3 output from your computer (ideally through an interface.)

 

Reply To: SD3 sounds weird when playing/recording, but awesome when playing back the midi version: 3.4.0
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[Muellercraft]

The main SD3 package comes with a huge library of drums and MIDI.   As Tom says, it takes a LONG time to download.    The application itself is about 230 gigabytes. The core library is 235 gigabytes.  If you got several SDX expansions you probably have another 50-100 gig of sounds and MIDI to download.    Set aside a large chunk of time and follow the directions.

 

From the installation instructions:

“Due to the size of the library and to ensure that each customer freely can decide in what capacity he or she wants to utilize the source material, the product is configured in six (6) convenient download packages. Start by installing the software and then add each package in sequence as you go.”

 

Muellercraft

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[Muellercraft]

I have Hansa and I use it a lot.  There is a nice variety of rooms and kits.  I tend to use the ‘marble room’ and sometimes ‘vocal booth’ for a really dry sound.  I like the China type cymbal in the marble room.  I tend not to use the ‘live room’ and ‘Meistersaal’  simply because they aren’t right for the type of music I record.

Indiependent has some nice dry sounds for small kits.

 

 

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[Muellercraft]

Are you trying to record, or just play?

I have the TD17KVX driving SD3 into Logic Pro.  (You’re right that the stock kits in the Roland are not in the same class as SD3.)  I run the Roland brain directly into my computer which is a fully loaded Mac Studio Ultra.  Lots of computing power helps.  Even so, I use Logic’s ‘low latency mode’ when recording MIDI to the DAW.  There is still a very slight latency, but it’s not a big obstacle.  As I recall when I set it up the SD3 preset for the TD17 MIDI needed a slight amount of tweaking.  I can’t remember exactly what I changed, unfortunately, but I think it had to do with cymbal triggering.  Sensitivity and so forth can obviously be adjusted.  None of that should affect raw latency, though.

I’m guessing that your problem is either an underpowered computer or something in the latency settings.  Finding and adjusting the latency settings is much cheaper than replacing the computer.  But rest assured that the TDK17KVX and SD3 can and do work together very well when configured appropriately.

Muellercraft

SD3 3.3.6

Mac Studio Ultra (M1)

Apollo Twin X

Logic Pro 11.1.2

OSX 14.6.1

Roland TDK17KVX

 

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[Muellercraft]

I assume you’re using the UM-One because there’s no USB on the TD-20?    My Roland kit is the TD-17 so I go with the USB which is pretty much plug and play.  However, I have an old Yamaha keyboard with no USB and I use the UM-One with that.  Two pieces of advice:

1. Make sure you have the cables connected properly.  It is not completely intuitive.  ‘In’ and ‘Out’ can be confusing — ‘In’ meaning into computer or into device?  Double check.
2. Make sure you go direct into the computer with the other end.  I tried running it into a USB hub and it didn’t work properly and sometimes not at all.  Running it straight into the Mac solved the problem.

Good luck.

 

 

Reply To: Roland TD20 in superior drummer “Waiting For Midi” issue version: 3.3.6
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[Muellercraft]

BEST ANSWER

Here’s how I do it:

 

1. Create a software instrument track in Logic
2. Make SD3 the virtual instrument on that track
3. Open SD3 and search for or create a groove
4. Click on the groove and drag it onto the Logic track

Muellercraft

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