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I absolutely agree. I was getting so frustrated I was starting to think about just playing from the module or going back to acoustics!  This series is bridging the gap and answering so many questions!

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I personally find Cubase 10.5 Pro to be freezing on me alot when I’m working on songs. More than any other versions.

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In my case, the issue seems to be early in the session, not later. I’m on a 2013 laptop but its been upgraded and there’s an i7 Intel CPU in there.

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Hey interesting that you say that – I noticed the same recently when drumming along with my laptop. I’m on 3.1.7 Windows.

The weird thing is I didn’t change the audio drivers or SD3.  I wonder if this could be caused by a Windows update?

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Wow, thank you so much for your detailed explanation!  Before I got to this I backtracked from SD3 just to see if I could understand better my Roland module. I hit every trigger and made note of its default MIDI note number. Unlike you though, my Tom 1 = 48, Tom 2 = 45, Tom 3 = 43, and Tom 4 = 41.

What I discovered is that even without adding SD3 in the mix, I can’t just sit and play thru all the module’s kits without at some point having mismatches in terms of the extra 4 AUX instruments I’ve connected. I was kinda hoping that if AUX 1 triggered a cymbal sound on one factory kit, it would do so on another but it’s not consistent… meaning it looks like I have no choice but to take an afternoon and reassign instruments to these 2 extra cymbals, extra pad, and BT1 so that there is no mismatch when I play. And then overwrite the kits since what Roland had in mind when they configured them doesn’t match my setup (and not even consistent from one kit to the other so swapping AUX jacks woulnd’t be a solution). Not sure why they don’t make it more consistent.

But while we are discussing modules, do you turn off Local MIDI when using it with SD3?  I don’t know if it would make a difference. In my case, I can’t seem to turn if off just for one preset…seems like it turns it off globally on my TD.

BTW, I was able to play a Future Instrument on the BT1 and the PD8. But the BT1 had alot of latency – I’ll have to look deeper into that later.

So I’m just a little confused now.. you were definitely advising against MIDI Learn in the drums tab as it wouldn’t be global, and therefore advised to do it in the eDrums tab… but my understanding now is that you don’t do ANY assignments inside SD3. Is this correct?  You just pull up a pack, look at the midi notes firing and then create a matching preset on your module that contains matching assignments? And then whenever you change to a different expansion, you change the preset used on your module? But will this be accurate for all kits in the expansion pack? Or do you need at some point to also use the eDrums tab to customize something?   (man, this is complicated! you’d think the industry would have standards by now!)

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Oh wow, you’re right there kinda is a way of doing it in the DRUMS view, albeit not super straightforward. Thanks for showing me that!

However, you say it would not be global like if I apply the change in the EDrums settings.  But how global can it be?  I mean, if I change to a kit that’s in a different expansion pack, will hitting my Roland china still trigger the right-most cymbal on screen?

And related to this, what does it mean when I click (or physically play) a wireframed kit piece, see an orange speaker icon appear and the kit move BUT a different kit piece lights up? When I look at the mapping keys panel on the right while doing so, I can see that one articulation is flashing gray and a blue one has the orange icon appearing here as well. What does it mean?

Moving on to your suggested workflow…you say you would right-click an already loaded part that has a MIDI note already assigned. Do you mean pick a drum kit preset where the piece is not wireframed? Is that what the wireframed pieces mean? That they don’t have MIDI notes assigned? If so, how come we are hearing a sound? Every wireframed kit piece I click emits a sound, and sometimes makes another piece move (like a cymbal).

You then mention saving new configurations as User Kits. Are you talking user kits in SD3 or the module? Sounds like you’re saying you save inside SD3 a user kit tweaked the way you like for each genre you play. How did you assign a cowbell to your BT-1? First of all, I can’t find the cowbell under future instruments (which is where I thought I would find any aux percs). Which graphical kit piece do you assign it to?

Sorry for all the questions – your answers are super helpful and I think I’m starting to understand better. Bare with me just a bit more!

 

 

 

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Hi monospace

I guess I should have titled my thread “MIDI Learn WITHIN the main Drums tab” (instead of inside the edrum setup.)

To me it would make sense to have it on the same view as where we are assembling the kit, adding pieces, swapping pieces etc… I could just add the tambourine, right click, select MIDI Learn (which doesnt exist in this view), hit  my pad and be done without leaving the drumkit view.

As for what you are saying (and thank you for replying!), it sounds like there are 2 approaches possible.  Create different presets inside SD3 or create different presets inside my module.  Is this correct?

Maybe if I tell you what my use is, you can advise me on which is the better path.  I want to play cover songs, and even if I use different kits from different expansion packs, I will probably always want my china cymbal to be the right-most cymbal on the GUI inside SD3, no matter which kit is selected in SD3.  However, I’m open to having my Roland bar BT1 be a tambourine in one song,  maybe a shaker in another.  Maybe I could create a preset depending on which artist’s songs I’m playing?  Like a Def Leppard kit, a Duran Duran kit, etc…?  If I do a kit specific to a song, I’ll likely end up with too many presets but creating them and naming them per artist might work.  Thoughts on all this?

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Thanks for the link to the SD3 maps for Cubase…

Does this mean that whenever one loads a kit from a different “pack” in SD3, we have to ALSO load a different drum map in order for it to sound right?

Whats the “rule” for when to load or swap out a certain drum map?

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Hi John, I was aware of that shortcut already since I went thru the Keyboard Commands menu before posting here.

OK I think I see whats going on… unlike Adobe applications which “highlight” the active panel on the GUI, SD3 does not. Which would be a FEATURE REQUEST of mine. Because it looks like despite the Groove being selected, the reason that SHIFT-SPACE was NOT working is because I had clicked in another panel (like the transport bar) which activated THAT panel. When another panel is active, despite the groove being selected in the groove list, SHIFT-SPACE will not start the groove.

Reply To: Is there a keyboard shortcut to audition grooves? version: 3.1.7
Operating system: Windows 10

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Hmmm, interesting. I’m on a Windows 10 i7 with 16GB RAM and I’m pretty sure I have all mics installed.

I’d def be happy to do anything that could relieve any unecessary stress on the laptop when drumming (yes, I’m just playing live…or rehearsing at home).

I mean it’s not choking but, if some of those mics aren’t necessary, can I just disable them or do I have to delete the extra files from the PC?

Also, if I was to do so, which ones would you suggest I keep?

And would I notice any improvement on something? Latency? Ability to use smaller buffer size?  Or is this completely unrelated?

I always thought the mics was an “if you’ve got room on your hard drive why not” sort of thing… sounds like there may be more to that?

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Great idea about creating presets in the DAW, though using SD3 as a plugin inside Cubase means having it installed on another computer AND making sure I have the dongle plugged in. Ugh… I hope they will implement some kind of MIDI controller functionality to change the loaded kits.

I’ll keep in mind the idea of creating presets inside the DAW – Steinberg just released Cubasis so I could get that for the same cost as a switch pedal.

Or this could maybe justify me getting a LoupeDeck or StreamDeck… 🙂

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LOL – yeah thats an entire other thing – i find it hard to find a good place for the module AND a good place for the laptop!

If your laptop is that far, I’m guessing you don’t generally change your kits in SD3 much when you play?  Or have you figured out a way to advance to the next preset using a foot switch or something? (other FEATURE REQUEST)

Reply To: Can I get a click track without starting playback? version: 3.1.7
Operating system: Windows 10

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16-bit samples need to be upsampled??? Wow, why?  Upsampled back to 24-bit?  I don’t get the logic but it definitely explains why it takes more time but it sounds like it’s not a necessity for most people.  Why do you mention that the exception would be if someone wants a ton of mics?

I’ve got the full mic installation… and use that. Do you play your Roland kit with SD3 on a full mic install?

Reply To: Are 16-bit kits better for laptop drumming? (and related questions) version: 3.1.7
Operating system: Windows 10

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Sounds like this should be on the FEATURE REQUEST for 3.1.8 or whatever next release is!

Thanks for your input. I suppose in my case, I could do something similar to you, which is to start the click on my TD-20, connect an audio out from the module into my Scarlett’s input (which also processes the audio out of SD3 in my laptop)… and in theory get a similar result to you.  Not ideal but a workaround until they build this in…which they really should. Drummer 101 – a click for rehearsing!

Reply To: Can I get a click track without starting playback? version: 3.1.7
Operating system: Windows 10

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Hopefully, this will be added in the UPCOMING release… seems like this should have been part of the software from day 1.

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