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Shootie wrote:

I use about 8 different DAWs. I’ve seen this in Reaper before. Reaper was the problem, not EZdrummer. It was easily solvable asking a Reaper community. Good luck with your issue.

Thanks. As I mentioned in my original post, this doesn’t occur with any other plug-ins in Digital Performer. It only happens with Toontrack plug-ins.

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While I truly appreciate the willingness to help, both replies seem to misunderstand my original post.

After inserting multiple meter changes in one song in EZD, I don’t want to have to manually enter the same, multiple meter changes in EZB. To save a lot of time, I’d like to be able to copy the entire meter timeline from one Toontrack product and paste it into another Toontrack product.

Thanks.

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When the problem is the plug-in, the specific DAW doesn’t typically matter. But it’s Digital Performer 11.

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Glenn Stanton wrote:

on the song key selection the main list shifts the key, on the bottom is an option for no transpose. this affects the entire track. which for a single track project is the entire song. each track can have different keys.

I’m grateful for your reply. I’m just trying to understand how to apply it to my project.

I found the “Song Key” menu at the very bottom of the window. I was unaware of it before now. When I change it, all of the existing notes in my project change. So, that’s not going to work at the moment. I gather one should set the key here at the start of a project. I see the “No transpose” option, but it’s not clear to me what that does. Can you elaborate?

That said, back to my original inquiry, it’s still unclear how I can change the key, as needed, within a song. If the “Song Key” applies to the entire song, it seems I cannot change keys.

Lastly, you said, “Each track can have different keys.” Are you suggesting that if I need key changes within a song, I should use a different track for each section that requires a different key?

Thanks again. I look forward to your clarification.

UPDATE: I just watched a Toontrack video on YouTube that clarified this (at least somewhat). It states:

“If you record a bass line before selecting the correct key, you can easily change the song key by selecting one of the no-transpose options. This will change the key of the song track, but it will not alter the MIDI on the song track. 

If, however, you want to transpose the MIDI on the song track, select one of the standard options.”

It seems to me the “No transpose” feature is poorly named, because we’re clearly transposing. Perhaps it should have been named, “No MIDI Transpose.”

I don’t want to mess with my current song, because I’ve gotten it into a playable state (although the displayed chords are incorrect). Perhaps I can approach this differently on the next song and figure out how the “Song Key” and chord-transpose features work. They certainly are not intuitive.

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I think my goals are partially different, but I’m hoping one of you may have a solution:

Instead of transposing a section of a song in EZbass, I first need to transpose the entire song. I’ve got all of this fancy programming inside the plug-in (and this is my first time working this way (with MIDI in my DAW, this would be a no-brainer). So, I have all of these chords specified (in one key), but I now need to change the key of everything in the project (so far).

How do I do that without having to select every chord in the song and changing it manually?

Then, secondly, I will ultimately need to duplicate this verse and chorus, then change the key of their second iteration (and again for their third iteration). How does one do this in EZbass? I’m on a deadline and desperately need to make this happen. Is it possible?

UPDATE: I discovered I can select the notes in the grid editor and drag them to a new key, but now the chord names are wrong. I’m not sure what effect this may have yet (Again, I’m new to working in the built-in grid), but it bugs the hell out of me that the displayed chords are wrong. Surely there’s a way to transpose all selected chords, no?

Reply To: Changing Key in EZBass version: 1.1.8
Operating system: macOS Ventura (13)

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jordancrawley wrote:

Unhelpful

Indeed. He’s literally choosing to ignore all provided evidence.

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As far as I can tell, this is an astonishing oversight on the part of Toontrack.

I have 95 Toontrack products. The two previous computers on which they were installed have both been decommissioned, and I now need to authorize my new Mac Studio. Yet, in 2023, there appears to be NO way to simply remove all authorizations from a computer in order to authorize a new one. While I see an “Authorize All” button, there is no “Deauthorize All” button.

So, it appears I now have to click the “Show Authorizations” button on 95 products—one by one—just to deauthorize the previous computers, so that I can authorize my new one.

This is frankly an abominable dereliction on Toontrack’s part. This is tantamount to being “punished” for owning many Toontrack products. I could understand if this was the year 2000. But in 2023 this should not occur.

Operating system: macOS Ventura (13)

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I have a similar problem: “The EZdrummer plug-in could not be found. Please quit this application and reinstall EZdrummer.” (This is when attempting to load the standalone app.)

Seems simple enough—except reinstalling EZdrummer does NOT replace the required VST file. In fact the installer literally doesn’t even provide the option to select installation of the VST. The only options are Core Library, AAX, and RTAS. (See attached screenshot.) I selected Core Library (and deselected the others because they’re not needed), but after reinstallation, there still is no VST in the VST folder.

So, if the VST plug-in is required, as you claim, why doesn’t the EZdrummer installer install it?!?

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Olof Westman wrote:

Well, then there is a bug in DP. You have to talk to them about it.

To be clear, upon what evidence are you basing that conclusion?

When a dozen other VIs behave as expected, and SD3 is the only one that misbehaves, how does that lead you to conclude that it’s the fault of the host? That appears to defy all logic.

(BTW, the tester above just confirmed that his MIDI was in the song track. So, there’s that.)

Thanks.

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Olof Westman wrote:

The thing is that latency compensation is something a host does, not a plug-in. So – if there is a bug in the latency compensation then that bug would sit in the host.

Could it be this issue(not a bug) in DP?

http://www.motunation.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=63021&start=0

http://www.motunation.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=60255

I understand what you’re saying, but no, it’s neither of the above-linked issues. My MIDI is carefully quantized and is properly aligned to the grid. This has nothing to do with the buffers. I’m very, very familiar with all of those features. (I’ve been a MOTU beta-tester for 0ver 20 years, and I know DP very, very well.) I’m not saying DP is bug-free. Of course not. But this does not seem to be a DP bug. Or, put differently, there’s something odd about the way SD3 is interacting with DP.

Remember:

This project has over a dozen VIs—all of which are performing perfectly, with the exception of SD3. Numerous instances of Kontakt? Printed perfectly. Ivory, Stylus RMX, Trilian, Omnisphere—all print perfectly. EZDrummer 2 prints perfectly. The only VI that does not play nicely, under these circumstances, is SD3. So, how could that be DP’s fault? Why would DP “decide” to treat SD3 differently than it treats every other VI in the project?

Also, did you read the reply from the other DP user that I posted above? He corroborated my observations with great detail.

Why would DP print every VI perfectly with the exception of SD3, unless there’s something about SD3 that’s causing DP to do that?

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Henrik Ekblom wrote:

I have checked with some co-workers regarding this issue, and it’s strange thing, since the latency handling is done by DP.

Do you have the MIDI on the Superior Drummer 3 song track, or in a MIDI track in DP? Is there a difference if you try the one that you don’t have?

Thanks for the reply.

I don’t use the SD3 song track. All MIDI is in DP. I haven’t had a chance to try the song track (but it shouldn’t matter, right? External MIDI is “allowed,” and again, this doesn’t happen with EZD2—even with external MIDI). That said, I posted this issue in a DP forum, and received the following replies from another power user:

“Since I’m a big fan of SD3, I tried this, and I can confirm this bug, exactly as you describe it. Three things:

• For the bug to occur, the master fader needs to be assigned to the same output as the tracks to which you are recording the SD3 splits. I.e., if those audio split tracks are assigned to Out 1-2, and your master is assigned to Out 3-4, the bug doesn’t happen. (Obviously that would be a very unusual situation, but figured I’d try it just for more data). [snip]

• If you assign the multi outs from SD3 to aux tracks (I frequently do this with various VI’s), the sync bug doesn’t occur—even with a heavy plug-in on the master fader, the audio plays in sync. It’s only when recording audio files that it happens.

Good catch!”

And his follow-up:

“AND… one more piece of data. I tried this exact test using Pro Tools—PT does <u class=””>not</u> exhibit this behavior; it records from SD3’s multi outs to PT audio tracks via internal bussing just fine, even with a heavy plug-in on the master fader. So this may not simply be a Toontrack issue, or if it is, it’s one that impacts DP but not PT (I’m using the latest versions of SD3, DP and PT Ultimate). Strange…”

Does this info help? Are you able to communicate with MOTU about this issue?

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Thanks for investigating.

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Henrik Ekblom wrote:

Thanks for the file. I’ll hand it over to the highly trained computer dudes in the coding closet, and they’ll look at this ?

Thank you.

 

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Henrik Ekblom wrote:

Does this problem occur on all BFD MIDI files, or only the BFD Latin files?

So far, I’ve observed this in the BFD Latin files and the BFD Jazz files (but not the BFD R&B files.)

 

Henrik Ekblom wrote:

Can you upload one of the MIDI files where this happens so the coders can have a look at it?

Yes, of course. I’m attaching a zip file containing one Latin MIDI file and one Jazz MIDI file.

Thanks.

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Henrik Ekblom wrote:

The easiest way is to stack the articulation you want, and remove the sound from the original articulation (pull the volume slider in the Level property box to off).

We haven’t added a “replace” option in the interface because of some technical issues, and since it’s possible to do as I stated above it wasn’t a priority.

However, I will write this up as a feature request from you.

Thanks for the reply, and thanks for writing this up as a feature request.

I hadn’t considered stacking, because it isn’t obvious (before mousing over Stack > Add to, which I never did) that individual articulations can be stacked. When I see “Stack,” I think of layering an entire instrument. But now I know.

I look forward to a dedicated Replace feature.

Thanks again.

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