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  • joabogers
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    Perhaps if they split off the platformbindings for the presentationlayer and opensource it, the community could chip in for Linux / Wayland compatibility. But given the competition in this market and the fact that Toontrack has no presence in opensource, I doubt it’s a path they’d follow even if their architecture is prepped for such an adventure.

    joabogers
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    I came across a guide on https://forum.zorin.com/t/music-audio-production-in-linux-how-to-integrate-your-windows-based-plugins-vst2-vst3-clap/38314 which, though I haven’t tried it myself yet, repeats many of my own findings from the last time I got EZDrummer running on Linux somewhat successfully:

    • Use DAW that has a Linux verison like Ardour, Reaper of Bitwig
    • Use pipewire for easier audio management
    • Use yabridge for being able to use Windows VST2/3 on Linux.
    • I’ve heard mixed stories about using Bottles with Wine, but this guide explains how to use it successfully to ensure you can consistently install updates, which was one of two big issues for me with the Toontruck product manager.

    The only issue I had that it doesn’t address was drag & drop from EZDrummer UI in to a DAW, but from what I’ve heard that may be either X/Wayland specific or Wine version specific. The author of this guide apparently didn’t run into it, so maybe it’s solved itself.

    The guide is specific to ZorinOS, but seeing as that’s based on Ubuntu and it mentions nothing I haven’t seen in Ubuntu, I think this is a pretty general set of instructions to get EZDrummer and other Windows audio packages (even iLok-based stuff, which is reportedly even less Linux-friendly)

    joabogers
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    That video explains how to run the products separately. One of the main challenges however is using the EZ* tools as VST in a DAW on Linux. For example: dragging a midi fragment from EZDrummer into a track in your Reaper or Ardour project. Afaik using Bottles as suggested in the video actually makes that harder, because it enforces application isolation that frustrates the drag & drop ability. Correct me if I’m wrong.

    joabogers
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    Yeah ZorinOS looks promising. I found a post on the Zorin OS forum that mentions some good practices if you want to get VST plugins working. Haven’t tried it yet, but I recognize some of the steps I took in the past that worked well, like yabridge. What’s nice is that that post also mentions tips to ensure things keep working after updates, which is where things went sour for me last time I tried updating EZ Drummer VSTs on Ubuntu. It doesn’t mention Toontrack specifically, but it does mention other tools that I know are similary hard to set up on Linux. https://forum.zorin.com/t/music-audio-production-in-linux-how-to-integrate-your-windows-based-plugins-vst2-vst3-clap/38314

    joabogers
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    Yeah there’s a problem with Wine and the switch that Ubuntu made to Wayland. People are reverting to x11 and older versions of Wine, but that’s not a long-term solution. Toontrack building a proper Ubuntu/Wayland-compatible version would save a lot of trouble.

    joabogers
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    I’m reading reports with mixed results of people running Ubuntu Studio + wine + yabridge and not much else to get Toontrack Product Manager and various EZ* product VSTs working. The most common problem is that dragging MIDI fragments from the EZ Drummer UI into a DAW doesn’t work, and another is that installing updates via the Toontrack Product Manager in Wine is easy to mess up. Yet there are people who have gotten it up and running.

    In their attempts to get it to work, people tend to go down rabbit holes that : install various audio and video libraries, try Carla, mess around with pipewire, pulseaudio and jack, install multiple versions of wine… If Toontrack isn’t committed to getting their products working on an OS that has a brighter future than Windows, they could at least put up an unofficial, no-guarantees, don’t-base-your-purchase-decision-on-this manual up at https://www.toontrack.com/manual/superior-drummer-3/?search=linux to save people having to roam around Reddit to find decade-old posts that will bollox up your OS if followed now.

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    joabogers
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    I have to say I find it quite disappointing to get no customer service reply after close to a month. Why have a forum called Requests & Feedback if there’s no feedback?

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