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  • Jeff Anderson
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    Well said, and I agree for the most part. I would want a few options where the drummer “plays quietly” a la Joey Waronker. If that means fewer loud/high velocity samples, it’s worth it.

    (Style discussion starts around 17:48.)

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    Jeff Anderson
    Participant

    Hi,

    I was after the exact same sound and I found a solution that works for me. I really wanted the tight and punchy drums from Daft Punk’s Random Access Memories so I ended up using a transient shaper on each drum channel (I had each channel routed externally to output to tracks in my DAW). This not only allowed me to reduce the sustain of the drums but also increase the punch, mimicking setting up mics very close to the kit. Hope this helps. This is similar to using the the previously mentioned envelope editor inside SD3 itself but just a lot easier to work with and fine tune.

    Yes, good call on the transient shaper. I’ve taken that approach as well at times. It’s just disappointing that three years after the original post, TT is still ignoring this segment of the market for their SDX  Expansions. We don’t need a high profile producer or a prestigious studio for it. Just high quality mics and outboard gear, a basement studio, a good maple drum kit (with a Ludwig snare or two), a decent drummer, some tea towels, duct tape and a programming team to put it all together. With all of Toontrack’s expertise, I’m sure they would do a better job of it than the others who have tried and come up short (Addictive Drums, Circles Dead Drums, Loop Loft Dry Drums, Native Instruments Abbey Road 70s Drummer, Platinum Samples Ocean Way Drums, Past to Future Samples). Oh well. Here’s a video to enjoy while we wait for that ever elusive “Dry 70s Drums SDX”: https://youtu.be/5zhyvZXduvk

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    Thanked by: WJamesM
    Jeff Anderson
    Participant

    I didn’t see a response from TT to the OP’s original request so I’m guessing there aren’t any plans to do a SDX dry/dampened kit in a small room? I’m also very interested in that sound. I have the Indiependent, Custom & Vintage, and Roots packs, but none of them get that Air/Beck snare sound even with the “mute the room and ambience mics, tweak the decay” approach. I can get close on the toms, but for snares I’ve had to go the route of importing/stacking samples from Loop Loft’s Joey Waronker and Dry Drums libraries to do the job, but that means my fills are short/basic due to the limited velocity layers. It would be ideal to pull from a native kit to get a more versatile sample and save some time as well.

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