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[drumjack52]

Do you have any mixer channels hidden? If so unhide everything and see if anything untoward pops up. Are you caching anything? FYI when I try your download (even dismissing the missing samples warning) I get several pads on the left side that make no sound. Is it possible that something in the stack is muted? Not that familiar with stacks.

Jack
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[drumjack52]

Red Gear Music wrote:

Yea, I don’t think anyone is going to be able to help you because I also get the missing samples on those particular instruments.

That’s the same error I get here.

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[drumjack52]

Bear-Faced Cow wrote:

My apologies for not being explicit enough. Lack of sleep this past weekend. Maintaining output routings will keep the routings when you change presets. Load parts will load different routings onto an existing preset. So all depending on whether you want to change presets and keep the routing you are using, or whether you want to import the routing from a different presets will dictate the functionality that you will use. Hopefully that helps.

jord

Thanks for the explanation. It’s things like this that could use a better explanation in the manual and I think you know how I’ve railed on about the state of SD3 documentation and how it could be improved.

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[drumjack52]

Bear-Faced Cow wrote:

They are not accomplishing the same thing. One of them is keeping your mixer routing as you change presets while the other is loading in a mixer routing into an existing preset. It’s difference, and I would go as far to say value, is probably not apparent to you since you don’t mix inside Superior Drummer.

Jord

True that I don’t mix in SD3 but I rely on SD3 giving me the same outputs and that’s where I have the question. Which setting to I rely on to keep the same outputs? I use multi-channel outputs. You don’t say which setting is accomplishing what you mention.

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[drumjack52]

Problem is I don’t have the same libraries you have and I’m being told there are samples missing.

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[drumjack52]

Wish I could help but I don’t have Fields of Rock (I get complaints of missing samples). I do have Death and Darkness though.

Jack
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[drumjack52]

Jord: I don’t know how you can believe that last sentence you wrote but whatever. I don’t know what you have against making things easier for people but having everything on one page would definitely make it easier for a LOT of people no matter the day and age. Sadly you are just as I remember you from all those years ago.

Jack
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[drumjack52]

Bear-Faced Cow wrote:

Then, I have to ask the question: if you believe that they won’t read the email then what makes you believe that they will read whatever is on a webpage? There are numerous forum posts that illustrate this example.

jord

Because the webpage is the first point of contact; email is secondary. People tend to focus on that first point of contact. It’s like one of the cardinal rules of product placement – grab the customer’s eyeballs first. Second – make it easy for the customer to get what they want. Ever wonder why when you go to a store that certain products are placed where they are on shelves? It’s because the store is trying to get a customer to buy a specific product.

It’s all about psychology.

Jack
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[drumjack52]

Jord: You’re assuming purchasers actually read their emails. Some people are in a hurry to use their new purchase that they can’t be bothered to read their emails. Even if they did that doesn’t excuse Toontrack from making things a LOT more clearer on the product page – that’s where a lot of people get their info from. If things were as clear as you think they are there wouldn’t be posts here asking why when someone opens SD3 they don’t have any sounds or they downloaded the Core library but still no sounds in SD3. That’s because they didn’t install them. There’s been a few posts like that lately. That’s the one fault TT has and that’s not making things clearer. If that means doing so in multiple places then so be it.

Jack
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[drumjack52]

The only thing missing from the SD3 product page is an instruction to download and install the Product Manager elsewise everything one needs is right there. Maybe someone from Toontrack could add it there? Actually the needed info is in the FAQ page but I wonder how many people (especially newbies) go there?

Jack
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[drumjack52]

It’s times like this I really wish this forum had a PM (private message) capability. If I say any more I run the risk of being banned here.

Jack
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[drumjack52]

bpjacobsen wrote:

Bear-Faced Cow wrote:

For how you are using it I heavily agree with Mark. Superior Drummer is not a multi zone sampler and its feature set was designed so that you could import one or two samples to either stack on an existing kit piece or create some sort of electronic drum machine. What you are doing can be described as more of a poor man’s drum kit. For what you want to do, you should’ve been using something like Kontakt or even the Sampler in your DAW (Logic Pro 11 has a multi-zone sampler). The price of Superior Drummer has zero bearing in this case.

jord

• This post was modified 6 months ago by Bear-Faced Cow.

The samples I have are good quality samples. But I use them more or less for my extra octoban pads and not so much on the main kit. There are only so many of those types of sounds available in the libraries. Since I have so many presets, I don’t want every kit to have the same stuff on it. I like me a bit of variety. So for instance, I got some stuff I had saved from my Alesis Strike module in which I use jam  blocks that sound way better than the ones in SD3, Cajun Tom rims, Tamborim, repenique, etc. Then I have some samples from Drum Werks I use such as DW X Shell Toms etc. Again, I’m not really trying to re-invent the wheel. It’s just that with having such a large e kit with a lot of drums, it’s nice to have some added variety to mix it up a bit. They are professionally recorded samples.

Agreed. Like I said it’s a shame to get knee-capped with a program that would be a lot more usable/friendly than it is. Don’t let the others rain on your parade friend. Just because they can’t see the use doesn’t mean it’s not something someone else would like. No program is so perfect it can’t be better. There’s probably others would would like to see better user sample handling than exists. Kontakt is a mess as a sampler – been there/experienced that and gave up on it. And not everyone runs Logic (like Windows users).

Jack
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[drumjack52]

Mark King wrote:

I suppose it’s not really the core function of sd3. It’s just an add on as the main aim with sd3 is the core library and packs.

You should still be able to do sample work without jumping through hoops. Why else have it at all? Just because it may not be part of the core doesn’t mean it shouldn’t exist. It would make a decent drum program a heck of a lot better.

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[drumjack52]

It’s amazing for how great SD3 does some stuff there’s others that sorely need fixing. A batch processor routine would do what you want. Maybe in SD4?

Jack
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[drumjack52]

Bear-Faced Cow wrote:

Ahh… you’re trying to map to Superior Drummer.  Have you checked on your DAW’s forum?

jord

What I think the OP is talking about is consistency amongst all the SDX’s as to mapping and working within SD3’s drum editor and not going out to a daw.

BTW as to forum operations: when quoting a post didn’t that quote used to show at the top of the reply post? I don’t mean when typing the reply but when the reply gets posted to the forum?

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• This post was modified 6 months ago by drumjack52.

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