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drumjack52Check your routing and bleed levels.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
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Thanked by: Hodie Holtondrumjack52Hi,
if the pads are working with the internal sounds but there is no MIDI notes being sent when trying to Learn, I’d check the MIDI settings (from the manual):
1.Press DRUM KIT to go to the Main Screen.2.Press EDIT INST. The top of the screen will show thenumber and name of the Kit whose Instruments (drumvoices) you will be editing.3.Select MIDI (F2). The top of the new screen will show thetrigger Voice you are editing.trigger by pressing NOTE CHASE then striking the desiredtrigger. Alternatively, you can highlight the Voice (next tothe Kit number) using the CURSOR UP / DOWN buttonsto highlight it and use the VALUE UP / DOWN buttons orVALUE DIAL to change itBR,
John
Even before doing this I suggest downloading and running the free utility called snoize. It’s a great utility for helping to diagnose possible MIDI problems. Run it standalone and it will show you the MIDI messages coming from the e-kit. That will let you know if the e-kit is okay or not. Hit each pad separately and check that messages are being sent.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
drumjack52Hello all. For starters, I am running: iMac 11.6, Logic...Hello all. For starters, I am running: iMac 11.6, Logic Pro 10.7.4, a Focusrite 18i8 2nd Gen, and the most recent Superior Drummer 3 update. I have an Alesis DM10 MKII Pro kit that I am running in via a 15 ft USB cable into my computer’s USB hub.
I have two e-kits both exhibiting the same issues, that being that the Kick, Snare, and Tom 4 pads are not working at all in SD3. Have attempted to ‘Learn’ the pads, and I must be doing something wrong as they are just not registering at all. The pads themselves are fine, because this is the exact same issue as I experienced with my previous Kat Percussion kit.
Would running this via midi cables instead – as opposed to the USB – resolve this issue? If not, what would you suggest?
Reply To: 3 E-Kit pads not working on USB with Superior Drummer version: 3.3.3
Operating system: macOS Big Sur (11)Hello all. For starters, I am running: iMac 11.6, Logic Pro 10.7.4, a Focusrite 18i8 2nd Gen, and the most recent Superior Drummer 3 update. I have an Alesis DM10 MKII Pro kit that I am running in via a 15 ft USB cable into my computer’s USB hub.
I have two e-kits both exhibiting the same issues, that being that the Kick, Snare, and Tom 4 pads are not working at all in SD3. Have attempted to ‘Learn’ the pads, and I must be doing something wrong as they are just not registering at all. The pads themselves are fine, because this is the exact same issue as I experienced with my previous Kat Percussion kit.
Would running this via midi cables instead – as opposed to the USB – resolve this issue? If not, what would you suggest?
Reply To: 3 E-Kit pads not working on USB with Superior Drummer version: 3.3.3
Operating system: macOS Big Sur (11)
When you say the USB cables are going into your iMac’s USB hub are you talking about a physical hub that is separate from the computer? At 15 feet you’re right on the hairy edge of max cable length which is 5 meters or roughly 16 feet 5 inches and that’s with a good quality cable. Factor in the length of the cable going from the hub to the computer and that could be the reason you’re having problems.
I’d suggest this – lose the hub if you can and go direct from your ekit to the computer and change to a much shorter USB cable. And only connect one ekit at a time. Download the free MIDI utility called snoize. Run it in standalone and it will/should show the messages coming from your ekit. Check that those message are what you think they should be. This will at least rule out that your ekit is the problem and put the blame pretty much on your setup.
All this being said I’ve never been a fan of MIDI over USB. Especially if it’s a mixed system of 5 pin MIDI and USB MIDI.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
drumjack52kentuckychrome:
How’s things going?
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
drumjack52Hi, does anyone know how to disable the blue outline...Hi, does anyone know how to disable the blue outline around the drum being edited? I want to make a screenshot video and I’d like to hide the blue outline from the screen. Thanks!
Hi, does anyone know how to disable the blue outline around the drum being edited? I want to make a screenshot video and I’d like to hide the blue outline from the screen. Thanks!
You could click elsewheres in the gui but if the point of the video is to show something being edited (like the drum in question) it can’t be done. Why would you want to do that anyways?
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
drumjack52Thanks for the tip! I’ll try that out and hopefully that fixes my woes! 🙂
Cheers!
Let us know either way if it works or not.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
drumjack52Looks like everything is installed on the same external drive. Hmm.
Not good. The program itself has to be on your system drive in the OSX Applications folder. Easy to do in the Product Manager.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
1
Thanked by: kentuckychromedrumjack52Message is coming from using SD3 as a plug-in inside of Logic as well as in standalone mode.
Not good. When you did the install did you let the installer put SD3 itself in your Applications folder on your system drive and the libraries on your external drive? OSX can be finicky that way. When I did my install I did exactly that – SD3 on my system drive and the library on a separate internal ssd on a pcie card adapter next to the video card in my 2012 MacPro all managed by the Product Manager.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
1
Thanked by: kentuckychromedrumjack52Where are you seeing the message – from within Logic? What happens if you open SD3 in standalone mode? If that works then your install is okay.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
drumjack52Thanx. I use SD3 MIDI monitor and Snoize MIDI monitor.
And they’re telling you the same thing? Not good looking on the part of Toontrack.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
drumjack52I have a very hard time setting up SD3 with...I have a very hard time setting up SD3 with my Roland TD27KV kit. My kit is not standard anymore, I added a 4th PDX-100 pad, a CY-5 cymbal, a BT-1 trigger and swapped the VH10 for a VH14 hi hat.
After some tweaking the TD27 module and all pads work just fine. Everything is triggered correct, no cross talk, open/half open/close of the hi hat is controlled, all sorts of rim shots are present (snare and toms), and so on.
Not so when inviting SD3 to the party. When selecting the TD27 in Settings —> MIDI In/E-Drums only the kick and the snare are triggered correct (including all rim shots). Rack tom 1 and floor tom 1 are there but without rim shots. Also one cymbal is there but only with the bow trigger and not the edge trigger.
Setting it up manually is an absolute pain in the ass. The UX is complex and far from user friendly, the learn-mode in ‘MIDI In/E-Drums’ switches itself to off the moment a pad is triggered and has to be engaged a couple of times before the trigger is registered. With every custom drum kit this whole process has to be re-done? That would be OK-ish, however, most of the time the setup is not saved correctly. On reopening most of the pad-sample combinations in the drum kit are gone… Which is absolutely frustrating!
I’ve tried multiple USB cables, went back to the TD27 factory settings, connected the TD27 directly to my mac, running SD3 stand alone (not in Logic), according the MIDI Monitor the data is flowing when the pad is triggered, in short; I’ve tried everything I could think of.
Why can’t SD3 ‘read’, or record when played, the TD27 (or whatever drum module), collect all ID’s and accompanying info (pad, rim, edge, bow, bell, open/close, etc) of all connected pads/triggers and use that to let me assign the pads to the corresponding instruments/samples? In the end it’s all plain MIDI data!
Reply To: SD3 vs E-drums pains version: 3.3.3
Operating system: macOS Monterey (12)
- This post was modified 3 years, 2 months ago by Martin van der Linden.
I have a very hard time setting up SD3 with my Roland TD27KV kit. My kit is not standard anymore, I added a 4th PDX-100 pad, a CY-5 cymbal, a BT-1 trigger and swapped the VH10 for a VH14 hi hat.
After some tweaking the TD27 module and all pads work just fine. Everything is triggered correct, no cross talk, open/half open/close of the hi hat is controlled, all sorts of rim shots are present (snare and toms), and so on.
Not so when inviting SD3 to the party. When selecting the TD27 in Settings —> MIDI In/E-Drums only the kick and the snare are triggered correct (including all rim shots). Rack tom 1 and floor tom 1 are there but without rim shots. Also one cymbal is there but only with the bow trigger and not the edge trigger.
Setting it up manually is an absolute pain in the ass. The UX is complex and far from user friendly, the learn-mode in ‘MIDI In/E-Drums’ switches itself to off the moment a pad is triggered and has to be engaged a couple of times before the trigger is registered. With every custom drum kit this whole process has to be re-done? That would be OK-ish, however, most of the time the setup is not saved correctly. On reopening most of the pad-sample combinations in the drum kit are gone… Which is absolutely frustrating!
I’ve tried multiple USB cables, went back to the TD27 factory settings, connected the TD27 directly to my mac, running SD3 stand alone (not in Logic), according the MIDI Monitor the data is flowing when the pad is triggered, in short; I’ve tried everything I could think of.
Why can’t SD3 ‘read’, or record when played, the TD27 (or whatever drum module), collect all ID’s and accompanying info (pad, rim, edge, bow, bell, open/close, etc) of all connected pads/triggers and use that to let me assign the pads to the corresponding instruments/samples? In the end it’s all plain MIDI data!
Reply To: SD3 vs E-drums pains version: 3.3.3
Operating system: macOS Monterey (12)
- This post was modified 3 years, 2 months ago by Martin van der Linden.
When you say the MIDI monitor shows data is that the internal one in SD3? What I often suggest for MIDI issues is to download the snoize MIDI monitor utility and run it standalone. It will not only show that data is flowing but also will show you exactly what data is coming in. That way you can verify that your modules is sending the data you think it should.
Maybe try re-arranging the USB connection to your computer if you have any other USB connections. Do you have things plugged into a hub or chained together?
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
drumjack52Check the mixer levels.
Create your own pattern with all notes the same velocity and see what happens there.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
drumjack52What exactly should I be listening for? High pitched? Low pitched? What? Listening on high quality Adam cans and JBL LSR308 monitors.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
drumjack52You don’t need an enclosure. Put the 2TB SSD with a StarTech adapter in the drive bay replacing your SD3 drive. Should work without issues
jord
Even better is to put that ssd on a pcie card and in the card cage right next to the video card. In my 2012 MacPro I have a 1TB ssd as my system drive in the slot next to the video card and a 2 TB ssd in the other pcie slot for my samples. This way the transfer speed will be roughly double what it is in a drive bay. Move all the samples to that ssd. 2 drive bays open. Third drive bay has a 4TB 7200 rpm spinner for sessions and the 4th drive bay has a 4TB 7200 rpm spinner for backups where I keep ALL my installers. System and sessions backups are on external drives that are disconnected when not needed.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
drumjack52What daw are you using?
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
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