drumjack52
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drumjack52Thanks for the tip! I’ll try that out and hopefully that fixes my woes! 🙂
Cheers!
Let us know either way if it works or not.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
drumjack52Looks like everything is installed on the same external drive. Hmm.
Not good. The program itself has to be on your system drive in the OSX Applications folder. Easy to do in the Product Manager.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
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Thanked by: kentuckychromedrumjack52Message is coming from using SD3 as a plug-in inside of Logic as well as in standalone mode.
Not good. When you did the install did you let the installer put SD3 itself in your Applications folder on your system drive and the libraries on your external drive? OSX can be finicky that way. When I did my install I did exactly that – SD3 on my system drive and the library on a separate internal ssd on a pcie card adapter next to the video card in my 2012 MacPro all managed by the Product Manager.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
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Thanked by: kentuckychromedrumjack52Where are you seeing the message – from within Logic? What happens if you open SD3 in standalone mode? If that works then your install is okay.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
drumjack52Thanx. I use SD3 MIDI monitor and Snoize MIDI monitor.
And they’re telling you the same thing? Not good looking on the part of Toontrack.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
drumjack52I have a very hard time setting up SD3 with...I have a very hard time setting up SD3 with my Roland TD27KV kit. My kit is not standard anymore, I added a 4th PDX-100 pad, a CY-5 cymbal, a BT-1 trigger and swapped the VH10 for a VH14 hi hat.
After some tweaking the TD27 module and all pads work just fine. Everything is triggered correct, no cross talk, open/half open/close of the hi hat is controlled, all sorts of rim shots are present (snare and toms), and so on.
Not so when inviting SD3 to the party. When selecting the TD27 in Settings —> MIDI In/E-Drums only the kick and the snare are triggered correct (including all rim shots). Rack tom 1 and floor tom 1 are there but without rim shots. Also one cymbal is there but only with the bow trigger and not the edge trigger.
Setting it up manually is an absolute pain in the ass. The UX is complex and far from user friendly, the learn-mode in ‘MIDI In/E-Drums’ switches itself to off the moment a pad is triggered and has to be engaged a couple of times before the trigger is registered. With every custom drum kit this whole process has to be re-done? That would be OK-ish, however, most of the time the setup is not saved correctly. On reopening most of the pad-sample combinations in the drum kit are gone… Which is absolutely frustrating!
I’ve tried multiple USB cables, went back to the TD27 factory settings, connected the TD27 directly to my mac, running SD3 stand alone (not in Logic), according the MIDI Monitor the data is flowing when the pad is triggered, in short; I’ve tried everything I could think of.
Why can’t SD3 ‘read’, or record when played, the TD27 (or whatever drum module), collect all ID’s and accompanying info (pad, rim, edge, bow, bell, open/close, etc) of all connected pads/triggers and use that to let me assign the pads to the corresponding instruments/samples? In the end it’s all plain MIDI data!
Reply To: SD3 vs E-drums pains version: 3.3.3
Operating system: macOS Monterey (12)
- This post was modified 3 years, 1 month ago by Martin van der Linden.
I have a very hard time setting up SD3 with my Roland TD27KV kit. My kit is not standard anymore, I added a 4th PDX-100 pad, a CY-5 cymbal, a BT-1 trigger and swapped the VH10 for a VH14 hi hat.
After some tweaking the TD27 module and all pads work just fine. Everything is triggered correct, no cross talk, open/half open/close of the hi hat is controlled, all sorts of rim shots are present (snare and toms), and so on.
Not so when inviting SD3 to the party. When selecting the TD27 in Settings —> MIDI In/E-Drums only the kick and the snare are triggered correct (including all rim shots). Rack tom 1 and floor tom 1 are there but without rim shots. Also one cymbal is there but only with the bow trigger and not the edge trigger.
Setting it up manually is an absolute pain in the ass. The UX is complex and far from user friendly, the learn-mode in ‘MIDI In/E-Drums’ switches itself to off the moment a pad is triggered and has to be engaged a couple of times before the trigger is registered. With every custom drum kit this whole process has to be re-done? That would be OK-ish, however, most of the time the setup is not saved correctly. On reopening most of the pad-sample combinations in the drum kit are gone… Which is absolutely frustrating!
I’ve tried multiple USB cables, went back to the TD27 factory settings, connected the TD27 directly to my mac, running SD3 stand alone (not in Logic), according the MIDI Monitor the data is flowing when the pad is triggered, in short; I’ve tried everything I could think of.
Why can’t SD3 ‘read’, or record when played, the TD27 (or whatever drum module), collect all ID’s and accompanying info (pad, rim, edge, bow, bell, open/close, etc) of all connected pads/triggers and use that to let me assign the pads to the corresponding instruments/samples? In the end it’s all plain MIDI data!
Reply To: SD3 vs E-drums pains version: 3.3.3
Operating system: macOS Monterey (12)
- This post was modified 3 years, 1 month ago by Martin van der Linden.
When you say the MIDI monitor shows data is that the internal one in SD3? What I often suggest for MIDI issues is to download the snoize MIDI monitor utility and run it standalone. It will not only show that data is flowing but also will show you exactly what data is coming in. That way you can verify that your modules is sending the data you think it should.
Maybe try re-arranging the USB connection to your computer if you have any other USB connections. Do you have things plugged into a hub or chained together?
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
drumjack52Check the mixer levels.
Create your own pattern with all notes the same velocity and see what happens there.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
drumjack52What exactly should I be listening for? High pitched? Low pitched? What? Listening on high quality Adam cans and JBL LSR308 monitors.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
drumjack52You don’t need an enclosure. Put the 2TB SSD with a StarTech adapter in the drive bay replacing your SD3 drive. Should work without issues
jord
Even better is to put that ssd on a pcie card and in the card cage right next to the video card. In my 2012 MacPro I have a 1TB ssd as my system drive in the slot next to the video card and a 2 TB ssd in the other pcie slot for my samples. This way the transfer speed will be roughly double what it is in a drive bay. Move all the samples to that ssd. 2 drive bays open. Third drive bay has a 4TB 7200 rpm spinner for sessions and the 4th drive bay has a 4TB 7200 rpm spinner for backups where I keep ALL my installers. System and sessions backups are on external drives that are disconnected when not needed.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
drumjack52What daw are you using?
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
drumjack52Using an external drive isn’t a deal breaker, so I’ll check into that As well . Any brand of hard drive you’d recommend? I have A 2009 Mac (usb 2.0)
thanks
What specific 2009 Mac do you have? Desktop? Laptop? Doubtful that USB 2.0 will be fast enough for decent loading times. Do you have an unused Firewire 800 port? Either way you should go to OWC and see what they have – the people there should be able to help you. Ordinarily I’d say to get a housing and put in an SSD of one’s choice on the fastest connection you have.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
drumjack52is it the “devil” aspect? or just the space?
Reply To: SD3 remove banner version: 3.3.3
Operating system: macOS Monterey (12)
- The post has been modified 3 years, 1 month ago by patrick maguire"> 2 times, last modified 3 years, 1 month ago by patrick maguire.
I think the op is talking about the devil and not the space it takes up.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
drumjack52Hi I’m a very happy sd3 user using my fav...Hi I’m a very happy sd3 user using my fav sdx, death and darkness. I’m not overly sensitive I like to think, but I’d love to remove the devil banner from the drums gui.
With respect, I feel it looks childish and for a very pro product in every respect I feel it looks kinda amateur. Even if it were a simple black screen it would be fine.
Pls let me know if it is possible to remove the image?
Thanks
Reply To: SD3 remove banner version: 3.3.3
Operating system: Windows 10
- This post was modified 3 years, 1 month ago by Allan Butler.
Hi I’m a very happy sd3 user using my fav sdx, death and darkness. I’m not overly sensitive I like to think, but I’d love to remove the devil banner from the drums gui.
With respect, I feel it looks childish and for a very pro product in every respect I feel it looks kinda amateur. Even if it were a simple black screen it would be fine.
Pls let me know if it is possible to remove the image?
Thanks
Reply To: SD3 remove banner version: 3.3.3
Operating system: Windows 10
- This post was modified 3 years, 1 month ago by Allan Butler.
Is there some other real reason you want to remove it? I don’t think it looks childish or amateur. To tell the truth I don’t even think about it. It lets me know visually what library I’m working in without having to think about it.
But to answer your question – there’s no way to change it from an end user’s point of view.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
drumjack52Robert and Jack, by unanimous verdict I will contact Toontrack sometime next week if they don’t magically turn up on this thread in the meantime.
I’d contact support anyways. Don’t wait for them to come on here. They might not see this. It doesn’t cost anything to log a formal complaint except for the time spent doing it. That way you know it’ll be visible to those who need to know.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
drumjack52Robert, should I contact Toontrack’s support? I thought somebody from the company would monitor these forums so they would notice my post here.
It never hurts to contact tech support. Developers, even though it’s their forum, don’t always monitor threads. And the more people that do so will make it more visible and a wide-spread issue.
Jack
aka musicman691 on other forums
Superior Drummer 3.4.1
Area 33 1.0.0
Death and Darkness 1.0.1
PT 2021.6
OSX 10.13.6
3.46 GHz hex core 2012 MacPro 48 gig ram
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