Bear-Faced Cow
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Bear-Faced CowMeh! Everything in rock and roll is “borrowed“ 😀
Not my B minor diminished hexatonic run supported by timpani splashes and cowbell – surely?
Superior Drummer 3 version 3.2 obviously as LOR wouldn’t install on the old one.
Operating system: macOS Catalina (10.15)
- This post was modified 5 years, 2 months ago by James.
If you would have used the augmented run rather than the diminished, you might have been original. 😀
Downloading For now… looks like it is going to be a while.
jord
Bear-Faced CowWatching the “Making of…” video, it looks like the Helios console preamps were used for the Classic Rock saturated sound, which definitely fits in with my stuff, even though I’m using a Helios 69 emulation for guitars and bass. This was the sound that made me want to pick up a guitar 50 years ago.
I bit the bullet and pulled the trigger on it. Now comes the download wait. Will have to write a song with it called, “Begging For Forgiveness (When I Should’ve Asked Permission).
jord
Bear-Faced CowSomeone didn’t do their regression tests… fa la la la la la la la la 😉
jord
(slowly backing out now…)
Bear-Faced CowI might have to break the bank for this SDX. I’ve had to restrain myself holding off on the others, but this one might be worth feeling the pinch.
jord
Bear-Faced CowNot experiencing it here with the Logic either. Perhaps, zip up and post the project that is crashing Logic. Might he Be helpful to post your Logic project as well.
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Thanked by: steve fletcherBear-Faced CowIt most explains why the Legacy of Rock is going to fit in perfectly with me. I have been listening to the kit demos all morning and could hear Bonzo and Mitch Mitchell come alive in them. It was very well done, which is really no surprise.
jord
Bear-Faced CowThis will all depend on your genre of music. They are both fabulous SDXs made by different producers. For me, personally, Bob Rock fits more of the music that I work with. In many cases, it is an instant fit. However YMMV.
jord
Bear-Faced CowThe Eddie Kramer Legacy of Rock is going to be the perfect addition along side The Rock Foundry (Bob Rock), which has been my go-to SDX since its release.
AIR Studio never sounded so good in a drum library.
jord
Bear-Faced CowThere are multiple reasons for this from the preset being used to the velocity curve of the kit piece itself to the fact that you are also playing through someone else (you’re not Norman Garschke) recorded in another room through some rather hi-tech recording gear (thus the drums aren’t in the room like an acoustic drums). All of this typically falls under the first rule of using any type of sample, drums or otherwise (knowing the features and limitations of your sample). Thus, plenty of variables. Admittedly, however, being a long time drum programmer, and “finger drummer”, makes my end goals considerably different (something more real in the recorded sense). So, for me, loud and soft matter in the context of the song. Even when I am not rolling my own, I will tend to bend other drummers’ playing to fit the context of the song. It also boils down to which drums are more fit for the song, which makes me grateful for more big time producers weighing in with SDXs. I don’t need to delude myself to be a Bob Rock, Forrester Savill or Eddie Kramer (I so can’t wait for this…it may be the only thing I am able to get this year if I am fortunate). They have done it far better than I believe I ever will.
Bingo. This is what I do when I want to get a heavy sound. It’s kinda counterintuitive because this isn’t something you’d do with an analog kit, but damn if you can’t get some crazy aggressive sounds by stacking.
Again, this is about the production and not whether it is possible on an analog kit. Using this to create a little more crack or add some ring, or to come up with something that just cuts through a song, that’s what it’s more about to me. I have very little shame in using it when I need it, because it’s what serves the song. With a wide selection of kit pieces and an unlimited supply of samples (I have countless DVDs that I have amassed over the past decade), there’s nothing that can’t be created. One of my fave stacking tricks, I picked up from watching a video of Richard Chycki: he brings the click out of a kick by attaching a hi-hat sample.
jord
Bear-Faced CowConsidering that the entire SD3 library was recorded into a Neve 88RS console, what are you trying to say here?
We have read the OP’s post… perhaps you need to re-read and understand the nature of the SD3 Core Library in relation to the everything else we’ve stated before obfuscating the issue here.
jord
Bear-Faced CowConsidering that
Turn up the drum channel and add a touch of compression and stop arguing about a full digital midi library which costs less than a snare drum miked up to a mike-pre not sounding the same as that analogue input.
is not mentioned anywhere else and you instantly replied with a somewhat meaningless and trollish response to mine, I think we both know where my statement was directed, so let’s not be coy.
Now, aside from the fact that use of compression as a part of boosting gain is pretty much a good way to kill a good snare sound when misused, as it is most often by many inexperienced users, there’s a very good reason why the other drum libraries (they’re not midi libraries… that’s something else) are referred to.
And
Apples and oranges my friend, apples and oranges.
Could not be the furthest from the truth of this whole thread. Otherwise, you wouldn’t be clamouring on other threads to get your hands on them.
jord
Bear-Faced CowCompression is not a volume knob.
jord
No, but so many people are….
You just saved everyone a ton of typing by proving that in the above post.
Perhaps explaining your use of the compressor might garner better results. Or, better yet, inquiring as to why compression might not have been as appropriate perhaps adjusting the velocity curves might have gotten you a bit further.
jord
Bear-Faced CowI use it as well in SD3. It was one of the first SDXs I got.
SD3 is pretty much backwards compatible with all of available SDXs for SD2.
jord
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