Why are MANY of the folders in the various MIDI Drum Packs empty and missing the MIDI loops?

[csnack]

Hi. I’ve got three MIDI Drum Packs so far; the NY one that came with Superior Drummer 2, Jazz MIDI, and The Blues (though I bought the pick-and-choose 6 pack and am still choosing my 6) and when I browse to their folder locations in Sonar X3e most of the folders within the MIDI pack titles are completely empty! For example, in The Blues MIDI pack the folders 400@_STRAIGHT, 300@_SWING and 200@_SHUFFLE and many more in there are totally empty. Some of the folders only have a few MIDI loops in them and that’s all, but most of the present folders are totally empty! The same goes for the Jazz MIDI and the NY MIDI pack that came with Superior Drummer 2. What’s going on? It seems like I’m not getting all the loops I was supposed to get. Why are the folders even there if they are empty (and most of them are empty)? Or am I missing something? I use Superior Drummer 2.4.2 inside of Sonar X3e. This doesn’t seem right, especially since I just bought the pick-and-choose MIDI 6-pack and it seems that I’m not getting everything I should be getting with them. Please let me know what’s up and thank you!

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[Scott]

The empty folders in the MIDI packs are placeholders for folder headings in the browser. They are supposed to be empty.

Scott Sibley - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[csnack]

Ok then. So to help me understand then, what exactly is the purpose of, for example, the empty 400@_STRAIGHT folder in The Blues MIDI pack – what purpose is that empty folder serving exactly? Anyway, glad to know nothing is missing and thanks.

[csnack]

I mean you said what they are for and I guess I just don’t know about that kind of thing. Say, what happens if I delete any of those empty folders?

[Scott]

If you delete empty folders you would no longer have the headings in the MIDI browser. Do you see the ‘Straight’, ‘Swing’, and ‘Shuffle’ folders in the Browser tab in S2? And those subfolders for each of the ‘songs’ and the sub sub folders in each of those folders? The empty folders are the reason you have those headings in the browser. I wouldn’t recommend deleting them.

Unless you don’t want the variations separated like that and just want to guess which is groove is straight or swing or which which is a verse type groove which is a chorus type groove or a fill

Scott Sibley - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[Les Barker]

they are just headers in your browser, they aren’t supposed to have files in them. it helps as it seperates all your different tempos and styles with headers giving information on the rythym type for example. Leave them there….

[csnack]

Ah ok. Thanks guys, I understand now and I’ll not be deleting anything.

[csnack]

The thing I was doing “wrong” was auditioning the loops in Sonar X3’s browser rather than SD’s browser. That’s why I was seeing all these empty folders that weren’t very neatly organized and many of which were empty and I had to click to open many before I could find some folders with loops in them – that’s why I was wanting to delete some of them lol. Sonar X3’s browser is essentially Windows’ browser and it was showing me the folders in the same way Windows Explorer would and looking at them that way they’re not very organized at all. In SD’s browser they’re very neat and easy to access. I see what you’re talking about now.

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