Ok bare with me.. Complete noob.

[zakkforchilli]

I searched around for a bit and i didn’t really know where to look, or where to start. So i figured I’d jump in..

This has probably been asked before.

Im starting from scratch. I have a MIDI cable, a Fast Track Pro (Midi in Midi out) an iMac, and Logic Express and Garageband.
Also. I have a Roland TD4 SX Electronic Drum Kit.

Im looking to use the drum kit through MIDI into Logic.. To be able to record.. Drums.

Theres so many products from Toontrack i do not know where to start.
The drumkit from hell looks like what i want to use.. But how exactly does it work?
It says i need EzDrummer first.

And is there something i could use just as a plug in for Logic? To have the drum sounds triggered and recorded right within the app?

Im a MIDI noob.. Know nothing about it.

Any help would be appreciated.

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[John]

Hi,

and thank you for your interest in Toontrack products.

If you decide for EZdrummer and the dfh EZX expansion, you need to run Toontrack solo as your host for supported and optimal response from your E-drums.

If you want to be able to adjust response, velocity curves, etc. and get a truly great E-drum experience and also be able to record your performance in Logic (or GB), you should consider Superior 2.
This will also give you access to a wider palette of sounds, being able to pitch sounds, stack sounds, adjust individual bleeds and much more.

You should be fine with your iMac, given that it is fairly new and you have at least 2 GB RAM, and your other equipment.

Please feel free to ask, should you have any further questions.

Best Regards,
John

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[zakkforchilli]

Hey thanks very much.

I must ask though.. Is there a way where i didn’t want the ability to adjust all of those technical audio aspects, and just be able to record straight with the drum kit from hell? (Logic or GB)

Its just that Superior seems a bit pricy for me compared to the base software package.

Also, i can probably get similar sounds without buying the expansion.. Correct?

ORIGINAL: John

Hi,

and thank you for your interest in Toontrack products.

If you decide for EZdrummer and the dfh EZX expansion, you need to run Toontrack solo as your host for supported and optimal response from your E-drums.

If you want to be able to adjust response, velocity curves, etc. and get a truly great E-drum experience and also be able to record your performance in Logic (or GB), you should consider Superior 2.
This will also give you access to a wider palette of sounds, being able to pitch sounds, stack sounds, adjust individual bleeds and much more.

You should be fine with your iMac, given that it is fairly new and you have at least 2 GB RAM, and your other equipment.

Please feel free to ask, should you have any further questions.

Best Regards,
John

[John]

I must ask though.. Is there a way where i didn’t want the ability to adjust all of those technical audio aspects, and just be able to record straight with the drum kit from hell? (Logic or GB)

Well, the “problem” is that EZdrummer isn’t set up for E-drumming, that’s why you need to use Toontrack solo as your host since it has an ‘E-drums’ controller option to remap the GM standard notes correctly, as well a HH controller basic setup which can be further tweaked with a ‘Curve’ correction.
If you use another host, your hihats will (most likely) sound cut off and j e r k y while hitting the pad and moving your foot.

Its just that Superior seems a bit pricy for me compared to the base software package.

Buying EZdrummer + the dfh EZX expansion would almost cost you as much as buying the Superior 2 basic package (MSRP) unless you find a deal somewhere, which can be even cheaper.

Also, i can probably get similar sounds without buying the expansion.. Correct?

Are you referring to the dfh EZX and the basic EZdrummer POP/ROCK kit?
Well, in Superior 2 you can pretty much EQ, compress, parallel compress, etc. to make it sound more like the dfh EZX Metal sounds but not so inside EZdrummer.
You’d need to tweak that in your host (Logic).

Best Regards,
John

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[zakkforchilli]

Yeah i was just saying theres probably a small metal kit or something in the basic EZDrummer.?

Also Toontrack solo.. Is that a whole other app?.. Or it comes with..

Sorry its just a tad confusing lol.

So to get this cleared up, to record i need Superior.. Correct?

[John]

EZdrummer comes with the basic POP/ROCK kit and the Cocktail EZX.
Sure, users have posted Metal Demos with POP/ROCK but then they have tweaked the sound in their hosts (e.g. Logic).
Toontrack solo is a free host app for Toontrack users and it loads Toontrack plugins only.

So, E-drummers only using EZdrummer for live playing get along well with EZdrummer and Toontrack solo.
E-drummers wanting to record their performances and to have full control and tweakability buy Superior 2.

Best Regards,
John

John Rammelt - Toontrack
Technical Advisor

[zakkforchilli]

That sums it up! Thanks a lot John. Been a great help.

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