Nightmare hi hat issues

[magicHughesy]

Hi,

Ok so I have Superior Drummer 2.0 and a Roland HD1 kit. Not sure where the problem lies but I can’t get a realistic high hat sound, it’s choppy and unrealistic when working the foot controller while playing.

When listening to the HD1 through headphones plugged directly into the kit, the hi hat sounds realistic. When playing through SD2 in Logic 8 however, it doesn’t sound anywhere near as good. I tried playing a sequence and recording it to see what notes were output, and it came out as follows.

A#1, G#1, F#1 and 4

I then manually entered these values into the Hatstrig articulation as mentioned elsewhere, but it didn’t seem to make much difference. What are all the other notes that are pre-assigned in the GM Extended preset? Such as A#-1, B-2 and D8 for the ‘Closed’ articulation, F#1, C#3 for ‘Closed Tip’ etc. and do they only apply to kits with more advanced midi functionality? Do I need to change the values for these or leave them alone?

Is it a deficiency of the midi in the HD1 i.e. is midi support more ‘advanced’ in high end kits?

As you might be able to tell, I’m quite confused by all this but really want to achieve a realistic sounding hi-hat like it sounds when I’m playing the stand alone HD1 kit through headphones directly plugged into the kit.

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[magicHughesy]

Can anyone help with this?

[Rogue]

you can always sent us a recorded sequence for us to have a look at the data sent from the module but if your controller is sending a non linear curve then there is little you can do except equip yourself with a better foor controller… what is it btw (model)?

Rogue Marechal - Toontrack
Configuration Manager

[kojak]

Hi
For the HD-1, I have entered F#1 (GM closed hats) and A#1 (GM open Hats) to the Hats Trig midi settings and it seems to work ok. Now I have a smooth progression from closed to open.

I’m not sure on what to do with the foot pedal hat note that the HD-1 outputs. Seems to work ok, but I don’t know if it’s the best option with superior 2

AFAIK, these are the notes that the HD-1 uses, so I guess there is not more to configure.

Hope it helps

BTW, I checked the “edit only this articulation” button when entering the notes, don’t know if it’s needed.

[magicHughesy]

ok so I think it’s as close as can be now. I hope this helps others with the HD1:

First off I removed all the notes for each of the hats articulations.

As kojak above I checked “edit only this articulation” and added notes F#1 and A#1 to the Hatstrig articulation, then I added G#1 to the ‘open pedal’ articulation. Finally I added CC4 to the hatsctrl articulation, and saved as HD1 in the midi presets.

To the experts: does this sound like the correct way to set the midi up? As explained above the only notes output to logic are A#1, F#1 and G#1 and there is a fairly linear curve recorded too, quite an even range from 0 to 127.

[Damian Blunt]

Sounds spot on to me

Damian Blunt - Toontrack
Quality Assurance
Betatesting

[fudgesson]

Is it possible to make a HD-1 preset that can be shared?
Tried the above but can´t get it to work with my limited knowledge about this.
Or maybe a fools guide step by step how to make it work.

[Author]

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