1st buggy sample detected (…maybe to be continued because I’m pretty sure there will be further ones…):
“Live” Room kit:
14″ Istanbul Traditional Medium – Hi-Hat – “Tight Bell” articulation – [default “Hit Variation” setting occurrence: vel 99 -112]
issue/noise:
voice (LOL: saying something like “looks right” — yes, maybe it looks right but it sounds wrong! LOL 😉 )
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file: (vel 100 hits – round robin: default “Hit Variation” setting ; sound+mic channels default (no FX))
FieldsOfRock-LiveKit–Hihat-TightBell–1BUGGYsample(vel 99-112)_triggered Vel 100
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Thanks for the report. It will be fixed in the next update.
Damian Blunt - Toontrack
Quality Assurance
Betatesting
Damn! I better grab these before they’re fixed. 😀
I’ve often used such things in a song.
jord
Jordan L. Chilcott
Web Site: https://jordanchilcottmusic.com/
(…maybe to be continued because I’m pretty sure there will be further ones…)
Of course I was right LOL. Here we go again:
again 1 buggy sample detected:
“Fields Of Rock – Stone” :
15″ Istanbul Agop Mantra -Hi-Hat- “Pedal Closed” articulation – [default “Hit Variation” setting occurrence: vel 66 – 89 ; without “Use Adjacent Layers”: vel 78 – 89]
issue/noise: clicky noise
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file: (vel 84 hit – sound+mic channels DEFAULT (no FX))
FOR-Stone–15IstanbulAgopMantra–BUGGY_PedalChickSample_MidiVel-84
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aaaaaand here we go again:
again at least 1 buggy sample (on the same hihat model) detected:
“Fields Of Rock – Stone” :
15″ Istanbul Agop Mantra -Hi-Hat- “Open Tip 0” articulation – [default “Hit Variation” setting occurrence: vel 119 – 126 ; “Voice and Layer” setting: 6 – 12 (or “-“) (instead of 4 by default)]
issue/noise: clicky noise – sounds like digital clipping glitch
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file: (vel 121 hit – sound+mic channels DEFAULT (no FX))
FOR-Stone–15IstanbulAgopMantra–SampleNo1–BUGGY-OpenTip0-Sample_MidiVel-121
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password: Toontrack-SD3-Forum
…
I’ve found this second one which sounds ok via low/mediocre quality monitors but when monitoring through my high end headphones gear chain I have the impression that there is also this kind of digital clicking (however, far more difficult to detect – the first one (“SampleNo1”) is super no-go on standalone e-drum sound -> you think there are audio driver glitches -> super annoying — Hey Toontrack, do you have any QC? After the tenth sample on one hihat model do I get some wages (cause I’m doing QC for you)?
file: (vel 121 hit – sound+mic channels DEFAULT (no FX))
FOR-Stone–15IstanbulAgopMantra–SampleNo2–OpenTip0-Sample_MidiVel-121
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aaaaaand here it is again:
after research of (only!) 4 (!) articulations: around 20 buggy samples (most on hihat) detected:
“Fields Of Rock – Stone” :
password: Toontrack-SD3-Forum
I could puke when first trying some new SDX sound on e-drums – and after some beats they are there again: THE BUGGY SAMPLES! Because the makers of these libs don’t want to QC – it’s obviously too much work for these few e-drummers who have a problem with it.
Wow, found 20 today (most on a single hihat articulation which is relevant for closed loose hihat and also some on a single ride bow articulation) : at least around 10 of them are total no-gos to me.
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“Fields Of Rock – Stone” : 15″ Istanbul Agop Mantra -Hi-Hat – “Open Tip 0” and “Pedal Closed” articulation 21″ Istanbul Agop Xist Brilliant Ride – “Bow Tip 2” articulation 17″x12″ Sonor Sonorlite -Bass Drum – “Open” articulation
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–Hihat-Mantra__SingleSample__OpenTip0–Vel-25–issue-digitalCrackle -> [ Occurance/Range: vel 17 – 25 ; Voice And Layer: 8 – (-) ] – severe
–Hihat-Mantra__SingleSample__OpenTip0–Vel-25–issue-squeaking -> [ Occurance/Range: vel 17 – 25 ; Voice And Layer: 4(default) ] – severe
–Hihat-Mantra__OpenTip0–Vel-25-Sequence-6Strokes -> [ digitalCrackle + squeaking: stroke 3 + 4 ]
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–Hihat-Mantra__SingleSample__OpenTip0–Vel-30–issue-MegaCracking -> [ Occurance/Range: vel 26 – 32 ; Voice And Layer: 7 – (-) ] – severe
–Hihat-Mantra__SingleSample__OpenTip0–Vel-30–issue-digitalCracking -> [ Occurance/Range: vel 26 – 32 ; Voice And Layer: 6 – (-) ] – severe
–Hihat-Mantra__SingleSample__OpenTip0–Vel-30–issue-squeaking -> [ Occurance/Range: vel 26 – 32 ; Voice And Layer: 4(default) ] – medium
–Hihat-Mantra__OpenTip0–Vel-30-Sequence-12Strokes -> [ MegaCracking + digitalCracking + squeaking: stroke 7 + 9 + 3,5,8 ]
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–Hihat-Mantra__SingleSample__OpenTip0–Vel-38–issue-squeaking -> [ Occurance/Range: vel 33 – 39 ; Voice And Layer: 6 – (-) ] – severe
–Hihat-Mantra__OpenTip0–Vel-38-Sequence-16Strokes -> [ squeaking: you’ll find out which strokes are the buggy sample ]
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–Hihat-Mantra__SingleSample__OpenTip0–Vel-53–issue-Crackle -> [ Occurance/Range: vel 48 – 50 ; Voice And Layer: 5 – (-) ] – severe
–Hihat-Mantra__OpenTip0–Vel-53-Sequence-16Strokes -> [ Crackle: stroke 11 + 15 ]
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–Hihat-Mantra__SingleSample__OpenTip0–Vel-80–issue-squeaking1 -> [ Occurance/Range: vel 76 – 82 ; Voice And Layer: 4(default) ] – severe
–Hihat-Mantra__SingleSample__OpenTip0–Vel-80–issue-squeaking2 -> [ Occurance/Range: vel 76 – 82 ; Voice And Layer: 4(default) ] – medium
–Hihat-Mantra__OpenTip0–Vel-80-Sequence-16Strokes -> [ squeaking: you’ll find out which strokes are the buggy samples ]
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–Hihat-Mantra__SingleSample__OpenTip0–Vel-118–issue-muffledPlock -> [ Occurance/Range: vel 112 – 118 ; Voice And Layer: 5 – (-) ] – minor
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–Hihat-Mantra__SingleSample__PedalChick–Vel-55–issue-noise -> [ Occurance/Range: vel 50 – 59 ; Voice And Layer: 4(default) ] – severe
–Hihat-Mantra__Pedal–Vel-55-Sequence-16Strokes -> [ noise – you’ll find out which strokes are the buggy samples ]
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–Hihat-Mantra__SingleSample__PedalChick–Vel-72–issue-repeatingNoiseA -> [ Occurance/Range: vel 68 – 75 ; Voice And Layer: 4(default) ] – medium
–Hihat-Mantra__SingleSample__PedalChick–Vel-72–issue-repeatingNoiseB -> [ Occurance/Range: vel 68 – 75 ; Voice And Layer: 4(default) ] – minor
–Hihat-Mantra__Pedal–Vel-72-Sequence-8Strokes -> [ repeating noise – you’ll find out which strokes are the buggy samples ]
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–Hihat-Mantra__SingleSample__PedalChick–Vel-115–issue-clickingNoise -> [ Occurance/Range: vel 85 – 127 ; Voice And Layer: 4(default) ] – medium
–Hihat-Mantra__SingleSample__PedalChick–Vel-115–issue-repeatingNoise -> [ Occurance/Range: vel 85 – 127 ; Voice And Layer: 4(default) ] – medium
–Hihat-Mantra__Pedal–Vel-115-Sequence-8Strokes -> [ clickingNoise + repeating noise – you’ll find out which strokes are the buggy samples ]
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–Ride-AgopXistBrilliant21__SingleSample__BowTip2–Vel-73–issue-weirdTones -> [ Occurance/Range: vel 69 – 74 ; Voice And Layer: 3(default) ] – severe
–Ride-AgopXistBrilliant21__SingleSample__BowTip2–Vel-80–issue-digCracking-after3point5Seconds -> [ Occurance/Range: vel 75 – 81 ; Voice And Layer: 3(default) ] – severe
–Ride-AgopXistBrilliant21__SingleSample__BowTip2–Vel-80–issue-digCracking-after1point5Seconds -> [ Occurance/Range: vel 75 – 81 ; Voice And Layer: 3(default) ] – severe
–Ride-AgopXistBrilliant21__SingleSample__BowTip2–Vel-80–issue-digHiss-after6Seconds -> [ Occurance/Range: vel 75 – 81 ; Voice And Layer: 3(default) ] – severe
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–Kick-Sonorlite17x22__SingleSample__Open–Vel-50—-issue-noisyDoubleHit -> [ Occurance/Range: vel 44 – 55 ; Voice And Layer: 4(default) ] – severe
–Kick-Sonorlite17x22__SingleSample__Open–AmpRibbon-muted–Vel-50–issue-noisyDoubleHit -> [ Occurance/Range: vel 44 – 55 ; Voice And Layer: 4(default) ] – severe
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Thanked by: Mac McCormickF-O-R-Stone–Mantra Hihat-ClosedEdge -16th notes -feels+sounds like squeaking [ Occurance/Range: vel 94 – 101 ; Voice And Layer: default ]
–> 00:00 – 00:15 defauft preset without FX.
Download-LINK ( password: Toontrack-SD3-Forum )
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F-O-R-Stone–Mantra Hihat-opening process–OpenEdge2-annyoing acute noise [ Occurance/Range: vel 118 – 126 ; Voice And Layer: default ]
–> 00:00 – 00:15 defauft preset without FX.
–> 00:16 – 00:32 defauft preset with EQ (in order to emphasize the annoying frequencies) : HPF at 290Hz , (left channel only): +7dB at 8600Hz.
Download-LINK ( password: Toontrack-SD3-Forum )
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