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MIDI Output Inconsistent from Pattern to Song Track
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Posted July 12, 2022 at 13:51 #2952247
Brooks H
ParticipantI sometimes use MIDI out to other drum VIs. I use Studio One’s Chorder on the 3rd party drum VI to translate SD3’s output. (I still wish SD3 would sync its MIDI in and out.)
Playing patterns triggers the 3rd party drum VI as expected. But when I add patterns to the Song Track, the mapping is not the same. On something I’m working on now, the hats & cymbals are off, triggering toms. The kick and snare trigger as expected. There have been other times where everything is off and nothing is triggered as expected.
But when I drag the MIDI to the 3rd party drum VI track in my DAW, everything is fine again. Great, but it removes my favorite SD3 feature from the equation; the Song Track and Edit Play Style.
What could be happening to the MIDI output between the pattern and Song Track? Might there be a setting I inadvertently changed?
Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.3.2
Operating system: macOS Mojave (10.14)SD3 v3.3.6, EZbass v1.1.7, EZkeys v1.3.4
Studio One v5.5.2, Cubase v12.0.60
3.6GHz Intel i9 iMac, 64GB RAM, OS 12.6.1 -
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Replied July 12, 2022 at 14:52 #2952257
Mark King
ParticipantDo you have an edrum preset applied? Have you changed any mappings within sd3 on the main page. To check you have the midi out of sd3 enable and using this as an input to another track?
SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors
Replied July 12, 2022 at 15:01 #2952262ParticipantNo MIDI In / edrum preset applied.
I haven’t changed any mappings on the main page that I’m aware of. Is there a way to reinstate default settings just in case?
I do have MIDI Out selected and using it as the input on the desired track.
SD3 v3.3.6, EZbass v1.1.7, EZkeys v1.3.4
Studio One v5.5.2, Cubase v12.0.60
3.6GHz Intel i9 iMac, 64GB RAM, OS 12.6.1Replied July 13, 2022 at 08:57 #2952474ParticipantI could be wrong but the edrum preset will change the mapping as that is its purpose. Try default that and see if it works.
SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors
Replied July 13, 2022 at 09:39 #2952480ParticipantI do NOT have an edrum preset on.
SD3 v3.3.6, EZbass v1.1.7, EZkeys v1.3.4
Studio One v5.5.2, Cubase v12.0.60
3.6GHz Intel i9 iMac, 64GB RAM, OS 12.6.1Replied July 13, 2022 at 16:58 #2952563
BradParticipantHi there,
Just trying to replicate the issue. So want to get it right.
When you preview a groove from the groove browser in SD3, the MIDI goes via Chorder in Studio One to another drum VI and sounds proper.
When you take the same groove and drag it to a song track in SD3, the instruments in the other drum VI do not trigger properly. Yes?
Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.3.2
Operating system: macOS Monterey (12)Mac Studio M1 Max, RAM 64 GB, 1TB Drive, OSX 12.x/13.x and Windows 10 (VM)
DAW: Studio One Pro (always up to date)
DTX Express III (Extreme triggers), Nektar LX88
OWC Thunderbay Mini (4 X 1TB Sata SSD), Express 4M2 (4 X 2TB M.2 SSD), Envoy Express (1TB M.2 SSD)
Presonus Quantum, Faderport & Faderport 8
Black Lion Sparrow Mk2 A/D, FMR-RNP-RNC, MIDI Xpress 128, BM5A, KRK VXT4, Equator D5
2020 Macbook Pro 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD Audio(mobile rig)Replied July 13, 2022 at 19:31 #2952605ParticipantHi there,
Just trying to replicate the issue. So want to get it right.
When you preview a groove from the groove browser in SD3, the MIDI goes via Chorder in Studio One to another drum VI and sounds proper.
When you take the same groove and drag it to a song track in SD3, the instruments in the other drum VI do not trigger properly. Yes?
Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.3.2
Operating system: macOS Monterey (12)Correct!
SD3 v3.3.6, EZbass v1.1.7, EZkeys v1.3.4
Studio One v5.5.2, Cubase v12.0.60
3.6GHz Intel i9 iMac, 64GB RAM, OS 12.6.1Replied July 13, 2022 at 22:45 #2952673ParticipantHow you worded it it looked like you said no midi preset but then edrum preset applied. Obviously I read it wrong
SD3 with older sdx,s plus Rooms of Hansa and Death & Darkness. Cubase and wavelab current versions. Roland TD50x using all trigger inputs for triggering SD3 only. Windows 11 computer. Various keyboards and outboard gear as well as VST instruments. Acoustic drums: Yamaha 9000 natural wood and Pearl masters. Various snare drums. RME BabyFace Pro FS and Adam A7X monitors
Replied July 15, 2022 at 21:34 #2953266BradParticipantI sometimes use MIDI out to other drum VIs. I use Studio One’s Chorder on the 3rd party drum VI to translate SD3’s output. (I still wish SD3 would sync its MIDI in and out.)
Playing patterns triggers the 3rd party drum VI as expected. But when I add patterns to the Song Track, the mapping is not the same. On something I’m working on now, the hats & cymbals are off, triggering toms. The kick and snare trigger as expected. There have been other times where everything is off and nothing is triggered as expected.
But when I drag the MIDI to the 3rd party drum VI track in my DAW, everything is fine again. Great, but it removes my favorite SD3 feature from the equation; the Song Track and Edit Play Style.
What could be happening to the MIDI output between the pattern and Song Track? Might there be a setting I inadvertently changed?
Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.3.2
Operating system: macOS Mojave (10.14)Hi there,
Sorry for the delay, mountain biking season on the west coast…. I don’t have a solution, at least not yet, but I have replicated the issue…. it seems that when a song is played from the SD3 song track Chorder is for some reason bypassed. I am testing with SD3 and Presonus Impact.
Will try mucking about with it tomorrow….
Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.3.2
Operating system: macOS Monterey (12)Mac Studio M1 Max, RAM 64 GB, 1TB Drive, OSX 12.x/13.x and Windows 10 (VM)
DAW: Studio One Pro (always up to date)
DTX Express III (Extreme triggers), Nektar LX88
OWC Thunderbay Mini (4 X 1TB Sata SSD), Express 4M2 (4 X 2TB M.2 SSD), Envoy Express (1TB M.2 SSD)
Presonus Quantum, Faderport & Faderport 8
Black Lion Sparrow Mk2 A/D, FMR-RNP-RNC, MIDI Xpress 128, BM5A, KRK VXT4, Equator D5
2020 Macbook Pro 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD Audio(mobile rig)Replied July 15, 2022 at 22:09 #2953285ParticipantI sometimes use MIDI out to other drum VIs. I use Studio One’s Chorder on the 3rd party drum VI to translate SD3’s output. (I still wish SD3 would sync its MIDI in and out.)
Playing patterns triggers the 3rd party drum VI as expected. But when I add patterns to the Song Track, the mapping is not the same. On something I’m working on now, the hats & cymbals are off, triggering toms. The kick and snare trigger as expected. There have been other times where everything is off and nothing is triggered as expected.
But when I drag the MIDI to the 3rd party drum VI track in my DAW, everything is fine again. Great, but it removes my favorite SD3 feature from the equation; the Song Track and Edit Play Style.
What could be happening to the MIDI output between the pattern and Song Track? Might there be a setting I inadvertently changed?
Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.3.2
Operating system: macOS Mojave (10.14)Hi there,
Sorry for the delay, mountain biking season on the west coast…. I don’t have a solution, at least not yet, but I have replicated the issue…. it seems that when a song is played from the SD3 song track Chorder is for some reason bypassed. I am testing with SD3 and Presonus Impact.
Will try mucking about with it tomorrow….
Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.3.2
Operating system: macOS Monterey (12)- The post has been modified 3 years, 3 months ago by Brad"> 2 times, last modified 3 years, 3 months ago by Brad.
Thanks for looking into this. I hope this is fixable.
SD3 v3.3.6, EZbass v1.1.7, EZkeys v1.3.4
Studio One v5.5.2, Cubase v12.0.60
3.6GHz Intel i9 iMac, 64GB RAM, OS 12.6.1Replied July 20, 2022 at 21:55 #2955043BradParticipantI have tried to resolve the issue and am unable to. The only thing I could suggest is remapping in the 3rd party drum VI and if that is not possible try contacting Toontrack Support.
https://www.toontrack.com/faq/how-do-i-contact-support/
Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.3.2
Operating system: macOS Monterey (12)Mac Studio M1 Max, RAM 64 GB, 1TB Drive, OSX 12.x/13.x and Windows 10 (VM)
DAW: Studio One Pro (always up to date)
DTX Express III (Extreme triggers), Nektar LX88
OWC Thunderbay Mini (4 X 1TB Sata SSD), Express 4M2 (4 X 2TB M.2 SSD), Envoy Express (1TB M.2 SSD)
Presonus Quantum, Faderport & Faderport 8
Black Lion Sparrow Mk2 A/D, FMR-RNP-RNC, MIDI Xpress 128, BM5A, KRK VXT4, Equator D5
2020 Macbook Pro 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD Audio(mobile rig)1
Thanked by: Brooks HReplied July 21, 2022 at 00:12 #2955079ParticipantI have tried to resolve the issue and am unable to. The only thing I could suggest is remapping in the 3rd party drum VI and if that is not possible try contacting Toontrack Support.
https://www.toontrack.com/faq/how-do-i-contact-support/
Superior Drummer 3 version: 3.3.2
Operating system: macOS Monterey (12)Thanks again for looking into this. I’ll reach out to support.
SD3 v3.3.6, EZbass v1.1.7, EZkeys v1.3.4
Studio One v5.5.2, Cubase v12.0.60
3.6GHz Intel i9 iMac, 64GB RAM, OS 12.6.1Replied May 14, 2023 at 00:41 #3095825Replied May 14, 2023 at 00:51 #3095828ParticipantHi Bezo,
Did you every find a solution to this problem?
Thank you
No, I believe I was told to submit a feature request as this is intended behavior.
SD3 v3.3.6, EZbass v1.1.7, EZkeys v1.3.4
Studio One v5.5.2, Cubase v12.0.60
3.6GHz Intel i9 iMac, 64GB RAM, OS 12.6.1 -
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