Sebastian RothHello Toons,
so far EZbass is awesome and makes my day beautiful, but I can’t find any option to force a certain note to be played on a specific string. In other libraries there is usually a keyswitch for that.
In my situation I want to play some higher notes and EZbass decides to play them on the higher strings – but I want it to stay on the current string and to go up the frets instead. Is there an option or workaround for that?
Thanks
Sebastian
Henrik EkblomNo, there is no manual control over this. EZbass comes sampled with, and is automatically using, the notes that sounds best for each tone!
Henrik Ekblom - User Experience Designer
Toontrack
stpete111No, there is no manual control over this. EZbass comes sampled with, and is automatically using, the notes that sounds best for each tone!
Hi Henrik,
This is one of the features I’ve been wondering about since EZBass’ announcement. As Clownizm says, this is a pretty standard feature in any bass sample VI.
When you say, “EZbass comes sampled with, and is automatically using, the notes that sounds best for each tone” – how does Toontrack or EZBass know whether I prefer the sound of an A note on the open A string, or on the 5th fret of the E string, for a given song or song part I’m working on? Or what about if I specifically want to play the 15th fret of the D string instead of the 10th fret of the G string?
Please don’t misconstrue the tone of my question, I’m not trying to sound combative at all. I’m just wondering about the decision behind leaving this functionality out, and whether we can put it on a feature request list for a future version. I have to admit I’m a little surprised this was left out, only because of the incredible level of detail in so many other facets of this plugin. Aside from this feature omission, this is an amazing plugin.
Sebastian RothI just realised that this feature would actually not make any sense in EZbass.
If you for instance play the open E string it will trigger the exact same sample pool as if you play the same E on the fifth fret of the lower B string. So there are individual sample pools for each pitch, but not for each specific fret on each string.
I believe to understand why Toontrack did it this way and it’s fine for me. Just something to keep in mind.
stpete111I just realised that this feature would actually not make any sense in EZbass.
If you for instance play the open E string it will trigger the exact same sample pool as if you play the same E on the fifth fret of the lower B string. So there are individual sample pools for each pitch, but not for each specific fret on each string.
I believe to understand why Toontrack did it this way and it’s fine for me. Just something to keep in mind.
EZbass version: 1.0.2
Operating system: Windows 8.1
Hi Clownizm – I’m not sure I follow what you’re saying. If you look at my example of explicitly wanting to trigger the sound of the 15th fret of the D string being played, can you tell me how what you’re saying applies?
I’m not trying to be a pain, just really curious. And I will say, having played with EZBass now for a full day, I can at least admit that a Forced String setting would definitely be difficult to implement into what is a very easy and user-friendly workflow inside EZBass. It is very well thought-out and, well, EASY, like it’s supposed to be! But even though I can see that it would have been somewhat cumbersome to implement into the workflow, I still want to understand yours and Henrik’s logic.
Cheers!
Henrik EkblomWell, you mentioned one aspect of it: a user friendly software. There are 100’s of more functions that could have been implemented, and which we have discussed within the team, but we have drawn the line of where we think that the complexity of the features will make it worse (user-friendly-wise), vs what the gain of them are.
We want our users to make music in the easiest way possible, without having to think about all sorts of details, which really can kill the creativity. We wanted to make something that wasn’t already on the market, without sacrificing the quality of the sound. It’s impossible to create perfect software, but we want our users to be able to strive for making perfect music 🙂
Henrik Ekblom - User Experience Designer
Toontrack
stpete111Well, you mentioned one aspect of it: a user friendly software. There are 100’s of more functions that could have been implemented, and which we have discussed within the team, but we have drawn the line of where we think that the complexity of the features will make it worse (user-friendly-wise), vs what the gain of them are.
We want our users to make music in the easiest way possible, without having to think about all sorts of details, which really can kill the creativity. We wanted to make something that wasn’t already on the market, without sacrificing the quality of the sound. It’s impossible to create perfect software, but we want our users to be able to strive for making perfect music 🙂
Hi again Henrik,
Yes very true point, there are probably a 100 other features that could have been implemented. You have to draw the line somewhere.
I won’t beat a dead horse – just hoping that if there is a feature wish list for future versions, that this could maybe make it on there. I’ve been writing/playing/recording bass guitar for 20 years, and in my productions, I almost always play really high up on the fretboard, purposely, because I like that tone.
Thanks for another great product!
eric reidYea.. simple is great but dont sacrifice the functionality. This almost makes this unusable in certain situations as the harmonics from the low string high in frets is much more desirable most of the time then the tiny strings. You guys should address this
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Billy ProcellI will add my voice to this as well. I think this feature should be added.
As others have pointed out above that adding a Keyswitch function for users who want to use it, and it will not hinder those who favor ease of use at all by completely ignoring it. Adding a 5 way selector that doesn’t introduce a pop/crackle when changing it in real time, that is completely able to be automated within the DAW would be another alternative.
This is something that EZ Bass should have in its trajectory of improvements some time in the future.
As others have said, long slides from high up the neck, and harmonics that are on the higher frets on the thicker strings seem like its impossible to get to them as it is currently.
Stéphane LarocqueStompboxpedal you are totally right. This is a huge mistake to be unable to select a string.
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Thanked by: simonsenpeder@gmail.com and Victor Kennedystpete111I would really appreciate if Henrik anyone else from Toontrack could chime back in here. Henrik’s posts, in my opinion, would imply that Toontrack is comfortable having left this feature out despite the initial complaints about its omission. I’d like to get some comfort around the fact that several months after EZbass’s release, Toontrack folks have discussed this and are at least considering adding it for a future version? I think there are enough voices in this thread at this point to give it some real attention.
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JamesOMG please all shut up! It’s a MIDI driven program and the sound of low E on the 4th string open or 5th string 5th fret are the same sample.
Grow up and make some music
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Thanked by: Sedge73Stéphane LarocqueI understand now why we can’t select a string. It’s because they have sampled only one fret for each note like a piano. So even if we could select the string, the tone should be exactly the same. So for the first string, only the first 4 frets are available, 7 frets for the 2nd string, 7 frets for the 3rd, 11 frets for the 4th and 5th string + the open strings and they added 2 notes below the low B. So to be efficient, they should have to double (and even more because there’s samples for different fingers) the quantity of samples so I don’t think it’s going to happen. So even if it covers 3 octaves and a half like all bass plugins, there’s 45 differents “sounds or tones” for 45 notes instead of 84 tones for 41 notes when all the frets are sampled on a 4 strings bass. They prefered to sample the notes played with different fingers instead. Other than that, the plugin is the best i’ve used for bass!!
JamesSo if it sounds the same why do you want to see it play on a different part of the screen? If it sounds the same there is no point Toontrack wasting their time coding it.
Pim SchilperoortNo, there is no manual control over this. EZbass comes sampled with, and is automatically using, the notes that sounds best for each tone!
At this point – “we choose what sounds the best for each tone”- we disagree. As composer, musician and producer I like to choose what sounds the best for each song. It’s the song that determines which sound (=string) is needed for a phrase.
The I fact I stumbled upon this thread means I was looking for a solution to be boss over own bass! 😉
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Steve RussellI was allowed to add vibrato to a low E on the 5 string Vintage but since it played an open low E and not the fretted one it didn’t play the vibrato. If it allowed me to do it, it should have played it.
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