Wolfgang
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@thedrumdoctor Would you mind sharing the kit you built based on the core sounds?
Thanks for answering! Turning up all the bleeds ist usually the first thing I do with every set 🙂
I spent a fair amount of time with dialing in the trigger parameters in the brain and am pretty happy with it. Next I startet with the TD-50X MIDI preset in SD3, tweaked some things like the response of the snare zones and the hihat open/close states. In fact after fiddeling around for some weeks I pretty much came back to the defaults. I tested and tweaked all these things during several recording sessions and three live gigs and I think I came to a state where it works the best it can.
One set I used to play was based on the Fields of Rock Stone set. The 15“ Istanbul hihat has a pretty nice transition from closed to open with kind of naturally differing states in between. In the Stockholm Rock kit the 15“ Paiste hihat feels like it doesn’t give me the same amount of subtleties, like some of the 7 states sound too close to each other.
Sorry, not a native speaker here so I hope I can make my point clear.
edit: using the digital pads on hihat, snare and ride
Yes, dialing in the trigger parameters in the module should be the first step before going into SD3. And this could take some time and tests, try playing to music a few days to see how the module reacts in real life.
I first used a VH-11 with the TD-17 and it worked quite well but had some inconsistencies with the open/close behaviour. That was why I switched to a FD-9 foot pedal with the VH-11 and the transistion was indeed smoother. If I hadn’t switched to the TD-27 I would have stayed with the controller pedal instead of a moving hi hat.
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Thanked by: wphallI can only speak for what I have but the switch to a TD-27 with all the digital pads was a huge step forward coming from a TD-17. Not sure if it’s the best bang for buck as it’s pretty expensive. But it’s definitive the best triggering experience I ever had. Setting it up was easy by using the TD-50X E-Drums preset in SD3.
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Thanked by: wphallHi John,
many thanks for your reply! So I’m triggering the sample from Crash 1 and mute it with aftertouch. Not 100% what I wanted but does the trick pretty well.
Best,
Wolfgang
Yes, soundcards (or better: their driver) can make a difference in performance. Did you install the latest driver for the Octa Capture? There are different driver versions for different OS versions so make sure you use the correct ones: https://support.apple.com/en-us/101921
Have you checked if in SD3 performance settings the number of CPU cores is set to 1? Especially for Logic this is the recommended setting. Plus you could play around with the core settings for Logic itself https://support.apple.com/en-us/101921
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Thanked by: VintagebuaHi Paul,
can’t say anything about D&D as I don’t own it. I personally love the big Fealds of Rock kits, the Pure Goth is my goto kit. Together with the Stormtrooper Kit this SDX can sound pretty big and boomy. The Hitmaker was a little bit of a positive surprise. I think the marketing is a little bit misleading here as it’s very versatile and offers much more then just sounds “…RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE!”. Not used it that much but the Storyletter Kit became my standard kit for reahearsals.
You could save different MIDI mappings if you need to reassing the toms. Save them together with your SD3 presets and you have everything remapped per kit.
It’s part of the concept of SDXs to give you the sets as they were set up and recorded. If Eddie Kramer choose only two Toms (like with the Oyster Kit) you get only two Toms within that set. Actually that’s the main reason why I didn’t buy Legacy of Rock. You could add more Toms from other sets with additional instruments but they will always sound different – apart from the fiddly process of getting this to work. If you want to play sets with 4 Toms and 4 Cymbals my advice is to look for other SDXs with bigger drumsets like Fields of Rock, Hitmaker or Death and Darkness. Don’t get too fooled by the names or marketing of the SDXs, with some tweaking and mixing they all offer a quite wide range of sounds.
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Thanked by: Paul AndrewAs a drummer I would love to see a SDX with like three standard kits with more variations in sticks. I think we have more than enough sets for every genre, beginning from the 20ies ballroom to any kind of (heavy) rock. But when playing in a band I need to switch between sticks with wires on/off, rods, mallets, with consistency in sound. Would be great to have a vintage set, one from the 80ies and a modern studio/rock set within one SDX for that purpose.
In addition you could try to increase the attack time slightly. Ony a few ms but this tames the attack sound, a little bit like dampening an acoustic drum.
Some time ago I did some latency tests. Used a TD-17 there but should be pretty much the same with a TD-27. If your’re interested: https://www.lukaschek.com/de/latency-test.html
One of the outcomes: audio interface makes a difference and a dedicated interface has lower latency than the Rolands.
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Thanked by: drdrumStereo output only (that’s what I had before) and deleting the AU cache doesn’t help. LiveProfessor is crashing instantly as soon as I try to load SD3 as AU.
Signature sets from guys like Benny Greb or Jojo Mayer would be great! I think there are enough great “standard” sets so it’s time for some personality.
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