[Wade Jackson]

Hi Petter, I’ve already moved forward with that specific project, but I should be able to get a smaller repro together and provide it later today.

I’ll also provide my specific hardware if it helps:

Novation Impulse 25 Keyboard with the following CC controllers attached:

ProLine sustain pedal

Nektar expression pedal

Reply To: Session Organ: switching to session organ disables volume and sustain pedal version: 2.0.4
Operating system: Windows 10

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-- The morning mirror speech.

[Wade Jackson]

OK, further information… how I fixed it?  Don’t know why it broke but if I can fix it I’ll be OK.

So I SAVED a copy of the EZKeys project that works in Session Grand.

I created a new midi track in the DAW and inserted EZKeys.

Changed the piano to Session Organ.  Went to File/Import and imported the saved copy of the project session.

It switched back to Session Grand on load as that was what the saved copy worked in.  But I saw that I was receiving CC input.

Changed the instance to Session Organ and it began working as expected.  Dynamics pedal works, and sustain pedal operates the rotary.

Weird behavior!

Reply To: Session Organ: switching to session organ disables volume and sustain pedal version: 2.0.4
Operating system: Windows 10

"In Music, Art and Everything, CREATE more than you CONSUME.'

-- The morning mirror speech.

[Wade Jackson]

Hi Jordan, thanks for the reply.  Yeah I’m still trying to figure out why it happens to give a good repro.  I’ll try and give some more details.  As for volume, Session Organ calls it “Dynamics”… but on a real B3 it technically controls the volume LOL

Both CC controllers work as expected in a new daw project, on a new instance of EZKeys in the daw, if it’s the only instance in the daw.  It recognizes both the sustain pedal to control the rotary and the volume pedal to control dynamics just fine and behaves as expected when I put chord blocks in the timeline.

But when I open up a daw project which already has chord blocks,  duplicate the track, and change the new track to Session Organ there’s no midi input.  No CC pedals work at this point.

I thought it might be that the chord blocks I’d inserted before upgrading to Session Organ didnt yet have whatever information is needed to control them.  So in that same daw project I create a new midi track, inserted EZKeys Session Organ and tried adding new chord blocks from scratch.  In that case the CC pedals are still not recognized.

It’s a head scratcher.

Maybe the multiple instances of EZKeys 2 on different tracks are stepping on each other’s midi input?  I’m stumped.  Still experimenting.

"In Music, Art and Everything, CREATE more than you CONSUME.'

-- The morning mirror speech.

[Wade Jackson]

Thanks Toontrack for the quick follow through!  Love EZKeys 2 and these fixes will make our migrations from EZKeys 1 a breeze.  Way to go!

"In Music, Art and Everything, CREATE more than you CONSUME.'

-- The morning mirror speech.

[Wade Jackson]

Hi Petter, here is my EZK1 project for your repro test.  It was exported from EZKeys 1, for import to EZKeys 2.

On import, everything after the first chord is broken, only playing one note.  The chord wheel is also broken and so trying to reselect the correct chord only gives me the same broken sound.

Hope this helps!  Thanks for looking into this, friends.  Aside from these issues I love the new version!  — Wade

"In Music, Art and Everything, CREATE more than you CONSUME.'

-- The morning mirror speech.

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[Wade Jackson]

Thanks Petter, I’ll be glad to attach the exported EZK1 project when I get home this evening.

Changing keyboards doesn’t seem to be the catalyst though.  The issue actually repros right from the point where I import the project.

The project I exported from EZK1 was a full song of individually inserted chord blocks, i.e., no library midi was applied before exporting.

My typical workflow is to start with a drum loop and block chords to build a skeletal framework of the song first.  Then I add all the other instruments (bass, guitar, vocal etc.).   Last, I start searching for midi library selections on keys and drums to match the feel I’ve built up with the other instruments.

So of the EZK1 projects I’ll be importing as I switch to EZK2, most of them will be block chords.   I hope this helps.  I’ll attach the example broken project this evening.

"In Music, Art and Everything, CREATE more than you CONSUME.'

-- The morning mirror speech.

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[Wade Jackson]

UPDATE:  This occurs even if I don’t change the keyboard.  I went back to an earlier revision of my project to do my repro steps and it fails from the point I import the EZKeys 1 project using the menu option.

I was able to solve the issue, but it’s a workaround.  Still not working as designed if “File > Import EZKeys 1 Project…” is supposed to import a saved EZKeys 1 project.  .

What I’ve tried:

1. Reimported the EZ Keys 1 project.  RESULT: Still played a single not after the first chord for every chord after that.
2. Select/Cut chords from timeline in EZKeys 1 and pasted into time line on EZKeys 2.  RESULT: There are no options to paste into EZKeys 2 what was cut from EZK1
3. WORKAROUND: Created new instance of EZKeys 2 on the target track.  Selected/dragged/dropped chords from EZKeys 1 onto timeline in EZKeys 2.   This is identified as a single block in the timeline rather than individual block chords as in EZKeys 1, but it does play this way and I can move forward.

"In Music, Art and Everything, CREATE more than you CONSUME.'

-- The morning mirror speech.

[Wade Jackson]

I like this, being able to drag it directly onto a track for micro edits once it’s done macro editing as far as you want to go in EZD2.

What happens though if you want to change it again in EZD2?  Can you just drag the whole thing back over from the DAW track, into EZD2’s track? Would it lose any micro edits in the translation?

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-- The morning mirror speech.

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