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You’re not going to damage anything by setting your sample rate to 96Khz and running 96 samples, but I can’t imagine a reason why that would be necessary.

You should have the exact same latency at 48Khz and 48 samples and your computer won’t have to strain as much to do it.

At various times I had problems with Superior 3 and the drivers for my own Focusrite Scarlett interface.  Make sure you get and install the latest Focusrite drivers.  The problem I had, when I had it, was that there are multiple places to set sample rate and number of samples.  You can set it through Superior Drummer, or you can set it through the Focusrite configuration icon in the icon tray.  Sometimes I’d set it in Superior, and even though it appeared to be set where I wanted it the Focusrite driver would revert back to something like 44.1Khz and 512 samples.

I would not recommend installing ASIO4ALL with the Focusrite interface.  ASIO4ALL is really only useful for audio interfaces that don’t natively support ASIO.

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Thanks.  Just wanted to make sure I wasn’t missing something.

 

Yes, Henrik, I have been doing it through a DAW.  It’s just a bit cumbersome for one particular use case, which is sitting around and jamming while SD3 is looping a drum track.  If we come up with an idea we like and say “hey, let’s try that over a swing rhythm” or “try a less busy drum track” it’s nice to just punch a button and have a dozen different tracks at your fingertips.

 

It’s very doable in a DAW, it’s just cumbersome.  I’ve come to prefer using something like Mainstage or GigPerformer over a full DAW for this kind of thing, and for a moment I thought “hey, these tracks in the Groove window would be awesome for this.”  They still are, but obviously requires me to open the plugin and click around rather than tap a button on a controller.

I’ve considered using EZ Player Pro for it (feeding SD3 of course), which can take MIDI assignments to start/stop individual tracks.  That’s almost ideal, but the fact that it only takes NOTE ON events as triggers to toggle start/stop means the state sometimes gets de-sync’d from what a control surface thinks is happening.  (e.g., EZ Player is playing but the surface thinks it’s not, so the toggle states are out of phase.  Preferable to have CC’s use 0 for off, 127 for on.)

 

Thanks for the replies though.  Consider it a “nice to have” request.

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I know the general feeling of finding the SD3 kits unsatisfying for live play on edrums.

I’ve found that the problem comes down to MIDI velocities. My TD-25 brain knows how to translate cymbal, kick, and pad hits into producing properly balanced sounds in the different kits. Unfortunately, when it spits them out in MIDI they don’t translate well into SD3 using the default setup.

I love how SD3 sounds once I have a velocity-corrected MIDI file. In such a file most of the hits are in the 85-127 velocity range, with ghost notes coming in more like 40-50. When I play my TD-25 “naturally” it ends up spitting out most notes in the 60-80 velocity range, and ghost notes are down in the 15-30 range. It ends up sounding like crap on most SD3 patches and is really unsatisfying to play.

There are a lot of ways to adjust for this for live playing. I could crank up the pad sensitivities in the TD-25, but then it’s unsatisfying to play that without SD3. So I’ve determined I want to make the adjustments in SD3. In SD3 there are many options. Last time around I ended up fixing a couple patches to my liking by using volume faders, bleed levels, and some compressors. Of course that doesn’t translate from one patch to another, so I end up having to re-do it every time, and even then it doesn’t really feel dialed in.

So I’m going to go back and try it again by adjusting the velocity curves for each pad individually. My brilliant idea this time is to record a midi track of me playing my TD-25 “naturally” while listening to the output of the TD-25 rather than SD3. Then I’ll put that MIDI file on repeat play and mess around with the velocity curves for each pad until it all sounds right.

I’m a little unsure how well this is going to work out. It seems weird to me to have to balance everything around MIDI notes at 80-100% max velocity for “normal” playing, because that’s not at all “normal” to me as a recreational player that plays mostly in my house. (I’m a piano player mostly, so the idea of playing near full velocity most of the time feels a little absurd to me, but I guess it’s a lot more “normal” for real world rock drumming.)

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What you’re describing is the midi note velocity, as Mark said. Clicking the drums in SD3 produces a hit at velocity 127 (the max). Also as Mark said, you can see what velocity your drums are putting out by watching the midi monitor.

There are a couple things you can do within SD3 to adjust this. Easiest, choose a SD3 patch that applies a lot of compression. The Hard Rock and Metal type presets tend to add a lot of compression, so even your soft hits will be loud. You could also use velocity adjustment curves, which you can access on the Drums tab of SD3 over at the right. You can redraw the curves individually for each drum, you can save velocity curve presets, etc.

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On the screen you just showed, click on the right side where it says “Hi-Hat & Snare CC”
Then right below that, click where it says “Hi-Hat Pedal Control”
You will then see a series of dots on a slider that you can move up and down. You’ll want to move the bottom two dots to get your “Tight” and “Closed” where you need them so that when your pedal is pressed all the way down you get the sound you want.
You’ll be able to see over in the lower left of that panel what the CC values are that your pedal is sending. It should in theory go all the way up to 127 when it’s fully depressed, but yours may stop at something much lower, like 90 or so. Just move the dots at the right up so the numbers are at the thresholds your pedal sends.

It’s pretty easy to figure out once you play around with it. I can’t really explain it a lot better than that briefly.

SD3; Reaper; Roland TD25; Win10

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