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[Rodney Ferguson]

I was thinking that it would be a good idea to go ahead and upgrade to Apple Silicon and see what can be done without third party plugins.

After some years of experience I wonder if there really would be a massive difference in the sounds that I really need by just using ones available in Logic Pro 10.6.

May be keep the intel Mac running just in case but it would be a good time to see how good my skills really are, rather than relying on (the hype of) third parties.

Regards

Rodney

 

 

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[Rodney Ferguson]

Tuning drums is something that I experiment with quite a lot in SD3.

If you want to see the peak frequency hit of say a kick or a snare then fire up an EQ that has a frequency analyser on it. When you adjust the pitch in SD3 you’ll see what effect it has with the EQ analyser.

Of course you could always use your ear but even then a few different pitches will still work so most times it comes down to a stylistic preference.

One thing that I found disappointing was tuning toms. As far as I can see there is no way of tuning the top and bottom of a tom to fours or fifths of each other. However, this would be a massive task for Toontrack, so not something I would expect of them to do.

Regards

Rodney

[Rodney Ferguson]

Hey ajedwards87,

Do you mean SD3 inside Logic?

Set up your software instrument track, then under instrument, scroll down to AU instruments. Then select Toontrack, SD3.

Or do you mean the Gates, Eq’s and Compressors that come with SD3?

If you are then you will find these in the mixer section of the SD3 software.

Regards

Rodney

[Rodney Ferguson]

Hi Viktor,

I think people are referring to Toontrack products running natively on Big Sur with the M1 chip rather than simulation through Rosetta 2.

Rosetta 2 is taking care of compatibility issues with Big Sur for software built on Intel instruction sets. However, software for the new ARM Macs are going need to be rewritten for people to enjoy the full efficiency of the new SoC M1 Macs.

Now that Apple have released their M1 chip. Is Toontrack working on M1 compatibility for their software and do you have any idea of how long this may take?

Regards

Rodney

P.S. I don’t actually think that there is a massive rush because most people are probably waiting for the next Apple M1/M1x/M2 hardware to be released before making the jump to a new system.

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[Rodney Ferguson]

Hi Sveje77,

Thanks for the heads up. Is it running because of Rosetta 2 where Apple are assisting to bridge the transition?

Regards

Rodney

[Rodney Ferguson]

Hi,

Any predictions as to how long it will take Toontrack to make SD3 compatible with Apple Silicon, Big Sur and Logic Pro 10.6?

Kind Regards

Rodney

[Rodney Ferguson]

No worries! Nine times out of ten in Logic when SD3 maxes out, it is usually the multi-core option in SD3 that is the culprit.

When I first tried SD3, I put it on multi-core as well which I forgot about minutes later. Then because the performance was so poor I thought that I had wasted my money. It was actually very depressing at the time. Then someone on the forum suggested going back to single core and that changed everything.

Kind Regards

Rodney

[Rodney Ferguson]

Hi Dani,

In settings for SD3 you could adjust multi-core to 1. Setting it to two tends to make things behave erratically.

Logic/preferences/audio…might be worth changing some settings here regarding thread processing and playback, playback and live options.

Kind regards

Rodney

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[Rodney Ferguson]

OS Beta versions are really for software developers who want to make sure that their software works when the OS is officially released.

You will probably have to wait until September/October at the earliest if you are looking for something to be fixed. May be even longer as I imagine it won’t be addressed until the next update of SD3.

I would only really download a beta version if I wanted to use or look at some of the new features within the OS. Unfortunately, what you won’t find is an improvement of third party software. Usually the opposite is true where it is less stable or efficient as the third party developers need time to rewrite some of the code.

Kind Regards

Rodney

[Rodney Ferguson]

Are we talking about the selection of various crashes on Cymbal 3.

I think there may be a deeper misinterpretation to this thread. I may be wrong but there is no 15″ Zildjan Paper Thin Crash.

From what I can see there is a combination/stack of the 15″ Zildjan Paper Thin and the 14″ Paiste Line Thin China.

The only Paper Thin Crash I can see is the 16″ Zildjan.

Kind Regards

Rodders

[Rodney Ferguson]

The OH channel is typically high-passed in pro drum production with some low mid cut as well.

You can always re-route your cymbal/s to a separate channel if you wish. This might help to process the cymbal to get the sound you are looking for.

I think the reason that the samples are not overly processed is because Toontrack are allowing for their samples to be as versatile as possible.

Kind Regards

Rodney

[Rodney Ferguson]

Look up drum tuning and you will see that lots of drummers tune to a pitch.

There is an app from Tune-Bot that looks really good. It uses frequency guides which are also based on drum size.

Seems that the toms are tuned to intervals of your choosing. Each artist is of course different but it is good to know when looking for a particular sound.

As Toontrack users we would probably only reference the fundamental pitch as there is top and bottom tuning as well.

Regards

Rodney

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[Rodney Ferguson]

Hi Daniel,

I might be wrong but, I think that is how some of the kits are mean’t to be. Not every kit has three rack toms or 4 cymbals etc.

In the SoS review you can see the same thing.

https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/toontrack-superior-drummer-3

Although, if you want to include the instrument that is greyed out, I’m pretty sure you can select it and choose what you want to add from a menu.

Regards

Rodney

[Rodney Ferguson]

I don’t have anything else to suggest other than try the Avid forum.

May be some trouble shooting might help to identify whether it is Protools 19.5 or SD3 that is causing the problems.

However, I imagine that downgrading PT and trying both SD2 then SD3 is going to consume a lot of time.

Wish I could be of more assistance.

Regards

Rodney

[Rodney Ferguson]

You should watch some production YouTube videos that include producers such as Dave Jerden (Jane’s Addiction) Michael Bienhorn (Soundgarden) and Shelly Jakus (Tom Petty).

The amount of time they all spend on tuning a snare is insane. Especially when producing the hits/singles. Retuning every other take.

Whether this is tuning to a pitch, a tone or the room who knows. But they certainly know what they are looking for in different areas of the frequency spectrum.

There are also a number of producers who will target specific frequencies for each piece of kit to either boost or cut.

It is difficult when starting to know how to identify certain frequencies by ear. It comes with experience, trial and error.

Definitely use your ears but you can also speed that process up by looking at where your snare, toms are peaking with an analyser. Also at how much energy is in the low mids.

Then after a while it becomes second nature.

Regards

Rodney

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