[Progtronic]

Henrik Ekblom wrote:

Progtronic wrote:

I’ve got three sets of (velocity, articulation switching) stacks. Each representing closed, mid and open hats. I assumed the groups would interrupt each other, considering the instruments are all coming from the same articulated hat set.

So if all the stacked sounds was muted when the “main” articulation in the stack was muted, it would solve this issue for you?

Sorry for the late reply…

Regarding a “main” articulation stack mute.. I don’t think so.

Due to the fundamental changes of how SD3 now works (in comparison to SD2), there might need to be a function, per stack.. to assign it (the stack) to certain groups. So any stack, can cut-off any other stacks.. assigned to the same group.

I’ll use NI’s Battery 4, as an example:

In Battery 4, under the “Setup” tab > “Voice Groups”; there is an “Excl” > “Off, Group 1-16” pull down menu option, to assign any selected pads.. to any of 16 different (choke) groups.. along with a variety of other group options (assignable sets, voices, fade, mode, etc..).

In SD3, I was hoping to find something like a “Stack/Choke Group” setting.. along with the rest of the “View” > “Boxes”. My first reaction was to open the “Voice and Layer” box. I really thought the choke/group assignment option I was looking for.. might be in there.

Further, I may want to cross-mute something totally unrelated.. like a Crash Cymbal with a Kick Drum (for example). So being able to also assign individual instruments to choke groups, would be a valuable option as well.

So, a general overall grouping function, that covers both stacks and individual instruments (along with a similar variety of options like Battery’s Voice Groups offers).. would be amazing.

[Progtronic]

Also wanted to add.. that, SD3’s individual stacks won’t interrupt themselves either, unfortunately.

With SD2, I used to set up crash cymbals with mutes (hard velocity = crash, soft = mute).. all on one midi key.  In SD3, articulations just ring over each other.. no matter what. Sort of strange behavior for a drum machine IMO. An option to switch that feature on or off (along with grouping in general) would be great. In most cases you would want them to wash together though.

Beginning to have a bit of buyers remorse.. after such a pricey upgrade. Well, at least from the loss of a few really important features to me.. from SD2. Just about everything else is kinda awesome about SD3 though. 🙂

Hoping you guys consider maybe revisiting the grouping/interrupt concept. It would be really useful for a variety of percussion beyond SD3’s native offerings. Particularly.. imported and tweaked world styled traditional drum and percussive instrument samples might really benefit.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Progtronic]

Olof Westman wrote:

The stacks in SD3 are not capable of reproducing everything the MidiNodes in SD2 could do…

Thanks for the reply.

And, Wow. OK…

That’s a bit shocking, to be honest.

Guess I’ll have to rely on the note-off envelope thing, for my hat cutoffs (and anything else similarly stack related).

At least that’s still and option. :/

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