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  • Paul Girolamo
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    I figured out the issue. Even though the SNARE (T/B), Kick, Toms, etc are all designated as mono tracks, they are sending out of the EZ bus as stereo.

    This is a summing issue. ToonTrack has a stereo bus send. There is no way around it. When you only selelct one side of the pair in your DAW you are missing half of the signal.
    I can’t believe it’s taken me nearly 20 years to figure this out (going back to EZD1).

    When you create a mono INST track in ProTool, you’re only selecting the one side of the bus.Example: In EZD3 or SD3, I set my snare top to output 5/6, I don’t have a choice. ToonTrack doesn’t give you an option to send to a single bus send.
    Then I create a mono INST track in ProTools called SNTop, and set the input from SD Drummer Bus 5.

    If I create a stereo track in ProTools and choose both 5&6, there is audio data in both tracks. I also noticed on Toms, the left channel has audio data, but I was surprised to see the right channel had about half DB of the left.

    And here is HOW I figured this out. I also use UA’s LUNA. And there is a future to connect Toontrack to the individual Chanel strips. Luna creates stereo pairs. There is no away around it. I was even trying to figure out why guitar tracks sounded so good in Luna, and when I pulled them into ProTools, even though I use a mono track in Luna, they are creating a Left & Right stem for export. ProTools only creates one, the actual track. So I think UA Luna is “juicing” their tracks, just as ToonTrack is doing with EZ/SD.

    Try my trick above. Instead of a mono inst track, try a stereo.

    Now, NONE of this matters. Because if you are sending individual tracks into individual tracks of a daw, the purpose would be to process said tracks. So whatever is lost in the sum-game, is made up for by adding EQ and Comp on each track, more so when you take the sum of your drums and send them to a bus called “sum drums” and add an SSL or EQ / Comp on top of that.

    Paul Girolamo
    Participant

    This thread is too long too read all 7 pages, I stopped at the OP’s initial post and Toontrack’s reply.  I’ve been using EZ Drummer since 2008/9 ish?

    This year I purchased EZ Keys… I’m a guitarist, but did study a little piano. With that said, I’m a hack at piano. I just did two fresh new songs  where I selected the key to song, added blocks to the timeline, used the note editor (circle of 5ths tool), even created some 7th, 9th and sus chords. Then I selected all the blocks, and changed the playstyle to one that really fit my song. Is it perfect? No, but it’s way better than I could play it. The only thing Toontrack needs to fix is when I close the session and reopen, my playstyle selection isn’t kept. I have to highlight the blocks and reselect the playstyle again… (when I remember too..)

    So yes, it’s possible to do the things you want to do, you may just have to jump on YouTube and figure it out.

    Hope this helps!

    • This post was modified 4 years, 10 months ago by Paul Girolamo.
    Paul Girolamo
    Participant

    Bump… anyone?

    Paul Girolamo
    Participant

    Yes, this was very confusing to me as well, and I too couldn’t find the add to cart, so I clicked on something and accidentally went to EZ Expansion packs and purchased two of those instead of EZ Keys. Now I have expansion packs, but no EX Keys.  I have a case number and am waiting for support to contact me.

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