Patmusicd
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PatmusicdHi Jord, and thanks…. I hear you, but the clean samples do exist, and do play back, sometimes, but are somehow programmed to randomly round robin with the more buzzy ones! And this is the annoyance, and I do think it is true that a real studio musician, I am one myself, on violin, would do what it takes to articulate the note the way it needs to be played. And this is not possible here, as this random feature means you never know which articulation will sound until you have replayed it back. In a recording situation this is quite bizarre. I spend time programming a line, then it plays back differently each time, with no option to just play it as I programmed it,
I agree re. the velocities, and yes as one would expect they open up tone wise with increased velocity, like in real life. I have tested it extensively in hope, but the uncontrollable nature of how the round robin works means every render/bounce has differently (when I say different, I think it is 1 or 2 or 3) speaking timbres, which is un workable as the heavy buzzes sound so OTT.
I expect to be able to program my line, and for it to play back as I programmed it! This will not do that and so is unusable as a pro tool, which is a shame. The attitude of Support re my questions has been the real disappointment. I have spent thousands on Toontrack.
Thanks for getting back to me, all advice appreciated! I tried to include a short video example but it doesn’t seem possible, which is a pity.
PatmusicdPosted this above in forum, in particular reference to Upright, but there is more discussion on this thread.
It is an infuriating flaw and means the product is wholly unsuitable for professional use, Support confirmed that there is no way to turn off the random buzz. The clean sample is there, as it is played sometimes. I can’t work out if it is very second time on Upright, but pretty much. This would never happen in real life, you would just do another take and get the clean sound as required. or indeed the buzz, if that is what best served the music.
I was trying to get a mix finished recently, but each render had a different random set of loud fingerboard buzzes on notes, yes, probably intended for realism, but no professional musician would want these sounds to be outside their control! And professional musicians can of course control their tone, the very opposite of this random ‘feature’!
It is a ridiculous feature and means for me, I need to buy another bass library, and spend however long re programming the parts.
I had reported it to Support a while back, but nothing changed. Extremely flawed product as it stands. Reporting it again this week. I have found every step of the process to be made as difficult as possible. I don’t want to be writing in annoyance here in public, but there is no other way to highlight the problem!
It is clearly a huge error, Toontrack should stop arguing about it, take responsibility and fix it! It could be velocity mapped, or just an on of toggle! Not rocket science, just decent customer service.
PatmusicdI have emailed support about this a couple of times, it is infuriating and means the product is wholly unsuitable for professional use.
I was trying to get a mix finished recently, but each render had a different random set of loud fingerboard bangs, yes, probably intended for realism, but no professional musician would want these sounds! And professional musicians can control their tone, the very opposite of this ‘feature’
It is a ridiculous feature and means for me, I need to buy another bass library, and spend however long re programming the parts.
I have reported it to Support a while back, but nothing changed. Extremely flawed product as it stands. As it is random, this clearly means the clean sample is available in the software. a simple fix, if anyone cared about professional customers.
PatmusicdHi Glenn, thanks for reply. Yes, it’s the string hitting the fingerboard, and I get it, it adds to realism of cliche bass line, but in a mix it is infuriating at times! Spitfire do the with Pianos a bit, but you can adjust the level from that mic, for pedal noise etc.
I have fooled around with the velocity, but it maybe that it plays the finger board sample every second time in round robin fashion or something! Most annoying!
I now see the thread below related to similar issues with electric bass sounds, and fret buzz.
Such a pity!
Pat
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