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[Neb]

I guess there’s no way around treating your room and buying good monitors! My next investment will have to be some good open-back headphones!

Thanks for submitting the feature request.

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[Neb]

> We can use it to update current software

So ToonTrack are still interested in applying bug fixes and small improvements to EZD2 and EZKeys?

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[Neb]

Thanks for your reply.

> In there you can transpose the selected blocks to another key.

So that means that for that section, the circle of fifths tool will not have the key at the top? I can still use it for figuring out chords though, right?

Do any other features rely on the ‘stated key’ to function properly, or does it literally just orientate the circle of fifths tool? For instance, if I transpose a section as suggested, and then apply the ‘use browser midi’ setting to it, will EZKeys be drawing notes from the stated key, or the transposed key that the section is now in?

Also, is there any difference between ‘use browser midi’ and ‘copy -> paste midi’?

Thanks.

Reply To: How to key change during a song? version: 1.2.5
Operating system: Windows 10

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[Neb]

OK, so the best key for the piece turns out to be Bm I think, so stating the most appropriate key helps, I think.
To get my question answered, it is best to forget about the above example though. That’s turned out to be a distraction.

Basically, does EZKeys ‘handle’ key changes within a song?

If not, what are the consequences of changing key away from the stated key?
Eg. Does it affect the musicality of features like ‘smart transpose’, ‘use browser midi’, and ‘paste midi’? In what way are they affected?

Does it affect the function/usefulness of the circle of fifths tool, if the chords you’re working on aren’t in the stated key?

If there are problems with key changes, perhaps is would be better to only construct sections which have the same key in the track area and then export them, rather than try to construct the whole song?

Thanks.

Reply To: How to key change during a song? version: 1.2.5
Operating system: Windows 10

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[Neb]

EDIT: Sorry, I didn’t notice this was in the EDrum forum, and you’re probably talking about triggering a change of kits from your drum module. If so, disregard my reply.

How are you changing to the hiphop kit? You can’t just change it in the EZD2 interface halfway through a song, and apply a different kit to selected patterns (it would be awesome if you could). Instead, you’d need to check the option to ‘allow midi program change’ in the midi events tab. Then you’d need to work out how to get your DAW to send the correct midi ‘bank select’ and ‘program change’ triggers. However, I think there will be a delay as the new kit is loaded, so it probably isn’t practical.

Your other options are to export the audio into your DAW, or run two instance of the plugin on different tracks in your DAW.

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[Neb]

Thanks for the post. I’m just about to download EZKeys, and as an EZ Drummer user, this would have caught me out too. Now I know what to expect.

The EZKeys midi packs don’t seem too expensive, but it only says “An extensive collection of chord progressions for pop and rock” – it doesn’t how how big the collection is. Likewise ‘Organized in full song structures (intro, verse, pre-chorus, chorus and bridge)’, without saying how many full songs they’re organised into. I’ll guess I’ll find out soon enough, but it would be nicer to know roughly how many riffs you get for the 25€.

Reply To: the included midi files version: 1.2.5
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[Neb]

What do you mean ‘dampen’ exactly?

There seems to be ‘dry’ kits in some of the expansions, and you can use the mixer to reduce reverb and ambient/overhead mics on a lot of the kits.

But if you’re talking about getting a stylistically dampened sound, I remember seeing at least one expansion which was recorded with towels over the drums. You might be able to find an expansion which has dampened samples using other, not so extreme, methods.

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[Neb]

When my database got corrupted (admittedly when I was editing the names of the folders in the Midi directory) and I got an error in the search tab, the ‘Restore Factory MIDI Database’ did not fix the error, and I couldn’t get rid of the error until I had reinstalled EZD2.

So I was thinking that if the database is a file held somewhere, I might be able to repair a corruption in the future by replacing it with the latest version from my weekly backup disk image, rather than have to reinstall and set everything up again.

There is a 300mb midiDB file in C:\Users\[user]\AppData\Roaming\Toontrack\EZdrummer.
I think that is what I was looking for.

Reply To: Backup the Indexing/Tagging used in the Search feature version: 2.1.8
Operating system: Windows 10

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[Neb]

TLDR; When you add a library to the search feature, the files are processed and added to a database.

I would like to know how to back up and restore that database.

Thanks,

Reply To: Backup the Indexing/Tagging used in the Search feature version: 2.1.8
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[Neb]

Thank you both.

I’m looking forward to getting back home and watching some videos, but I think I’m already sold!

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[Neb]

I think you didn’t get an answer because you posted to the wrong forum. This is the EZKeys forum.

I can tell you that in the full version, the default modern/vintage sound pack has 3 drumkits (DW, Gretsch and Yamaha), which have been mic’d, processed and mixed in different ways to give you 29 distinct sounds/styles. On top of that, you can replace single drums with ones from the other kits, and also change the mixer settings. You might not be able to get the exact sound you’d like for each song you write, but you’d be able to get something in the right ballpark. Having said that, you may hear a sample from an expansion and say to yourself, ‘Man, I have to get that sound. It’s exactly what I had in mind.’

Personally, if I was only going to get one or two other expansions, I think it would be either ‘The Classic’, or ‘Alt-Rock’ (Steve Albini!). But it really depends on what kind of music you’re into. Those would be useless for Metal, for instance.

Is EZ Drummer worth it? If you don’t like programming drums, but you do like song writing and recording, then I think EZD will make your hobby more enjoyable by eliminating a slow and painful task.

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[Neb]

> Whether you can record directly from the EZdrummer 2 Standalone outputs while using it as an audio interface or not, I cannot answer.

Your intuition is correct, John – it’s very unlikely that you can use the usb connection to record from the computer direct to the R8.

You do have options though, Bobbi…

The worst case scenario is that you have to route the audio signal though your normal windows audio driver, out through your computer/laptop headphone output, and into an audio input of the R8 (ie. physically with a jack-to-jack cable). This would probably be acceptable for a lot of amateur applications.

Slightly better would be routing the audio digitally to a USB interface like a Dragonfly or Focusrite, and then from the audio out of the interface into the R8 audio input (again, via a jack-to-jack cable). This is nicer because the interface will have superior digital-audio converters than your computer motherboard.

Best scenario would come from being able to plug the R8 into your computer via USB, and being able to route the Windows audio straight to the recording R8 via USB. However, as I said before, I’m quite sure you cannot use the R8 USB connection in that manner – it will simply not take the usb connection as recording input.

The workaround for this limitation of the R8, would be to finish your song completely in EZD2, and render/export the whole drum part as a WAV file. Then you can send that file to the R8 over the USB connection (or physically on an SDCard), and place it on one of the R8’s tracks. This method also has the benefit that you don’t have to record your song onto the R8 in real time while it’s playing on your computer.
The disadvantage of not inserting your drum part as midi patterns in a DAW piano-roll first, is that you lose the opportunity to easily edit your patterns, since all your pattern editing will have to be done in EZD2. Whilst EZD2 is OK for building out the structure of a song, you will have an easier time doing small finishing touches in a piano-roll.

Reply To: Can Zoom R8 work with EZdrummer2? version: 2.1.8
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[Neb]

If I only have to do it once because all the EZD kits use the same mappings, then it’s no problem to create one big map that will work with all/most EZD kits.

Thanks.

Reply To: Midi mapping version: 2.1.8
Operating system: Windows 10

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[Neb]

Hi,

I’m new to all this, and this thread caught my attention.

I was just going to buy a Arturia MiniLab MkII to help me manipulate the EZD2 interface, and to edit midi in the Reaper piano roll.

You seem to be saying though, that this won’t be a case of just plugging it in?

From their website:

MiniLab MkII also works beautifully with our MIDI Control Center software, letting you create, edit, and save different MIDI mappings to suit whatever project you may be working on. MiniLab MkII can also save up to 8 of these MIDI maps on its internal memory. Recalling them is as simple as pressing ‘shift’ and hitting one of the 8 pads

Does that sound as though it will do the ‘mapping’ that you’re talking about in this thread?

Am I correct in saying that once I have mapped the MiniLab keys and pads to one giant EZDrummer map, that the one map will work for all kits?

Thanks.

Reply To: Midi mapping version: 2.1.8
Operating system: Windows 10

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[Neb]

Thanks for the confirmation.

I just had another thought. In order to monitor the licensing, does the software require internet to ‘phone home’ every time it starts? What happens, for instance, if I am in a rehearsal space that doesn’t have internet? Will the plugin still work?

Thanks.

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