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Agreed that it’s not difficult, but it’s a bit of work, and unfortunately, not easily replicable, unless you always want to pan the same cymbal position. It’s little things like this that make me wish SD3 was scriptable, so one could easily write a macro that would take care of this with just a couple of custom UI controls.
Are you listening, Toontrack?

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SD3 > HELP > About Sound Libraries

Thanks, that’s exactly what I was looking for!

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What jord said.

In addition, as per my question from yesterday, be aware that if you use bleeds, you will still hear the instrument in its original recorded position.
You will need to to duplicate those bleed channels, and route your new instrument’s bleeds to those channels as well and pan them accordingly.
It’s a pain in the arse but I haven’t found an easier way to accomplish this.

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What jord said.

In addition, as per my question from yesterday, be aware that if you use bleeds, you will still hear the instrument in its original recorded position.
You will need to to duplicate those bleed channels, and route your new instrument’s bleeds to those channels as well and pan them accordingly.
It’s a pain in the arse but I haven’t found an easier way to accomplish this.

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Did you select your device in Audio/MIDI Setup? If your audio device has multiple outs, did you select the ones connected to your monitors/headphone?

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In a DAW you could also draw automation lines for the hi-hat controller’s CC values.

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You may have figured this out by now, but yes, always change the mapping on the module, or the eDrumIn in this case. In the control app you can see and change the note assignments for each articulation in the lower right hand corner. You can match those manually to the MIDI values in SD3, or as noted above, use the handy Drum Map in the app to assign them automatically.

Getting sensitivity settings etc. properly set up in the EDrumIn takes quite a bit of fiddling, but once you get the hang of it it’s pretty astonishing how detailed you can get. Here’s the official YouTube channel with some tutorials to get you started.

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There’s no way to do this. It’s the same in most DAWs. You’re going to have to carefully examine the outputs and the sends of each channel to figure out which bus they’re routed to.

I do agree that this would be very useful functionality, and not just in SD3.

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Hmm. I see. I actually find the Playstyle and Grid Editors inside SD3 waaay more useful than anything I can do in my DAW.

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In a real-life situation, when you’re sitting at the kit, you would never be able to hear what’s picked up in the far room microphones. Sure, it sounds nice, but from a drummer’s point of view, it’s not very realistic. Bleeds are different, in my opinion. You do get a more realistic vibe when individual drum sounds aren’t played back from just a single microphone. So I’d suggest keeping  as much bleed as your system can handle, but only use one or maybe two ambient mics (preferably the “closest” ones.) Personally I don’t even have the others installed, but all you need to do is disable them in the Mixer. You can check the system load in the upper right corner.

All that said, it’s a matter of preference. If you like playing with the sound of EQs and compressors and ambient mics enabled, go for it. I prefer to save all that fun for the mix, not for sitting at my kit and jamming.

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The way I look at it, all I need is one single kit that I enjoy playing live. If I need a track for a recording, I can play it live and then spend literally hours upon hours futzing around within SD3 getting the kit pieces and the mix just right. It’s not like I have multiple acoustic kits to switch out on a moment’s notice. 😛

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In standalone, I mostly play the Premier (Massenburg) preset, and sometimes the Pearl or the Yamaha. I prefer to play something that sounds natural and unprocessed, and I find all the specialized mixer-based presets rather distracting — although useful for mixing!

For use as a plugin (in Logic, in my case) I have created plugin presets with different kits/configs, that I can change remotely using the Logic Remote app on my iPhone/iPad.

As an aside, this is a very useful and affordable laptop stand that you could fit next to your kit.

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Hmm. I thought the SD3 MIDI grooves don’t use your custom mapping anyway, so it shouldn’t matter if you play them back from within the DAW or inside the plugin instance. Have you tried *unchecking* the mapping preset when you playback the Logic track?

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If you’re not playing live, but mixing a drum track inside SD3, you will more often than not want to experiment with the different ambient microphones and bleeds. In that case, switching to 16 bit gives you more RAM headroom before your computer inevitably keels over. When I’m just jamming by myself, I’m fine with just one ambient mic and minimal bleed — in fact, I think it sounds more natural that way from a drummer’s perspective than turning on all the room mics.

Also, I have a (perfectly functional) Macbook Pro from 2009 with 8G of RAM, and there’s no way it can handle the full SD3 install. 😉

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I should add that in my case this is also the more practical solution because my laptop sits in a rack 6 feet away, so getting up to change the BPM gets old pretty quickly. 😛

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According to the manual, 16 bit samples need to be “upsampled” before use, that’s why they take (a lot!) longer to load.

You are right that in terms of playability or dynamics on an e-kit, the difference in sound quality is negligible. I used to do this all the time in SD2 to save RAM. But with the new sound engine in SD3, doing this is no longer worthwhile, unless you feel like you need a sh*tton of room mics etc. and are willing to wait.

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