mickg
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I don’t have any experience with the Roland HH. However I’m wondering if you somehow are triggering the HH cymbal itself, since there is a mechanical connection between the pedal and the cymbal pads. Can you unplug the hats cymbal trigger while still leaving the pedal footboard connected? This is so you can still trigger the pedal samples while isolating it from the cymbal pad. If that “fixes” the problem then there is a triggering problem with the pads and not with the pedal. If that is the case, the next thing I would check would be the pad sensitivity. Maybe it’s way too sensitive. Next I would check the physical connection between the top cymbal pad and the cymbal clamp (the part that is normally made of a top and bottom piece of felt. If that is clanging against the pad on opening and closing, maybe that is triggering the edge samples. Did you try playing fast, but lightly? Curious if there is a difference in height of your foot as you play faster.
This is all I can come up without more knowledge of the Roland HH, but I suspect it’s more mechanical than software related. Although it could be a combination of both.
Let me know if any of this helps.
Mick G
I’ve been dealing with workarounds since I had my first electronic kit in 1979 (Simmons SDSV serial #100) so I’m used to these sort of issues. Over the years I’ve learned that these hurdles are all part of being on the cutting edge of technology. I believe once you get up and running and have a chance to see what SD3 is capable of, you will forget about what it took to get going. This is a great company with a loyal and supportive user base.
Long story short… we hear you and if you are looking for support from the community, don’t be a dick.
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Thanked by: JeffIt has way more to do with Catalina than anything else. If I had a new Mac I’d “downgrade” to Mojave till there’s enough apps that can run on it. SD3 is awesome and worth dealing with any install issues you are currently having. They will go away in short time.
Sorry I don’t have an answer for you. I’m just hanging around because I need to know this myself. Good question. Thanks for asking.
mick
I see what you are saying. Latency in the DAW is not necessarily with the midi info coming in, but the audio going out, through whatever audio interface you are using (along with some internal routings of the DAW itself and the buffer setting needed). So, monitor the stand alone only while recording and monitor the recorded track through the DAWs audio interface. Because there should be no midi latency, there should be no timing issue when playing back all tracks through the DAW regardless of the buffer setting in the DAW. Smart.
I have the same MacBook Pro but I have an Apollo thunderbolt interface (TB2-TB3 adapter). My drive is a OWC Envoy Pro TB3 SSD. I’m running SD3 as a stand alone and my buffer is set to 64 (if there was a lower setting I believe it would work).
I have Pro Tools ultimate 2019.10. Tried using SD3 as a plug-in but could not get the latency lower than 128 without it crapping out. I gave up and I’m sticking with the stand alone.
I use this as a live drum rig. I have two drumkats and a trapkat as my live kit. Latency in standalone is great. Not so good as plug-in in any DAW.
Maybe with a new Mac Pro. I don’t have 6 grand to find out. Although the new mini looks pretty sweet.
Also, I have SD3 using only 1 core. I was having drop outs using more. Don’t know why, but switching fixed it.
Is he using SD3 to record his MIDI parts? If so, get him to send you the preset that he is using. Then you will both be on the same page. If not, have him send you a recording of some simple beats using his acoustic kit that you can use as a reference to match to.
Can you do an A/B comparison of your bounced track vs the pre-bounced? Both in session in sync with each other. Then you can play with volume of bounce to see if it is just a level difference. Also check to make sure you haven’t made a mono bounce by mistake. (Not sure how to do that in SD3, all my experience is from working in Pro Tools)
Now I think I need to try this stuff in SD3.
So far I’ve been only using it as my live kit.
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Thanked by: ChadwickDunderc0ckIt sounds like you are not getting all of your channels in the bounces. Check your channel routings. I haven’t done any bounces in SD3 yet, but I’ve made that mistake in Pro Tools more than I care to admit.
I’d check the mixer. Anything channels muted? You can send all of your channels out of outputs 1&2 to make sure it’s not related to the output routings to your audio interface (if you are using one).
I know what you mean. I’d love a chart that shows you exactly what gets saved in a preset and what gets saved with a kit. For instance where is midi mapping saved? If I open SD3 and call up a kit (without first loading a preset) it doesn’t have the correct mapping. Shouldn’t that get saved with the kit?
i would think the mixer would only have instrument routing, levels and fx, not midi. I could be wrong about this since I’m pretty new to SD3.
This might seem obvious, but are all your libraries on the same drive?
Mick
I’ve had dropout issues with my Macs before. (2012 MacMini i7 16g RAM, 2017 MacBook Pro I7 16g RAM) You may be short on RAM, but what really helped me was telling SD3 to use only 1 core processor. That completely fixed it for me. Check OWC.com for ways to bump up your mini without replacing it. I’d love to get the latest since they now can now carry 64 gigs of RAM. Sweet…
Try the 1 core thing…
Mick
Sure. Check out OWC.com. They make all kinds of updates for Mac minis.
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